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BenzDieselTuner · #31 06-14-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 84300DT

never had a bad tankfill with Hess...
yet....

down here in southwest florida, the story goes that Hess actually is where you want to buy diesel, they maintain their filters on the pumps and keep their tanks clean here and they sell the most diesel because of it......Racetrack is also supposed to be very good.........Wal-Mart is supposed to be the worst !

this info isnt based on any "facts", it is what i hear "through the grapevine" from other drivers in the area.....

whunter · #32 10-23-2013, 11:06 PM

With the Detroit bankruptcy issues and current Michigan (negative) economy, local fuel quality is IMO seriously questionable.

Adding 4 - 6 ounces of two stroke oil with every fill up, makes a notable improvement in power and MPG.

Forget to add two stroke oil with every fill up, and even my 1995 Ford 7.3 power stroke is unhappy.

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Simpler=Better · #33 10-24-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by whunter

With the Detroit bankruptcy issues and current Michigan (negative) economy, local fuel quality is IMO seriously questionable.

Adding 4 - 6 ounces of two stroke oil with every fill up, makes a notable improvement in power and MPG.

Forget to add two stroke oil with every fill up, and even my 1995 Ford 7.3 power stroke is unhappy.

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Do you have room for an old home heating fuel tank outside? Around here, if you order 100gals+ at a time you get delivery and it's cheaper than at the pump(actual taxed onroad fuel is delivered to you).

whunter · #34 10-24-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpler=Better

Do you have room for an old home heating fuel tank outside? Around here, if you order 100gals+ at a time you get delivery and it's cheaper than at the pump(actual taxed onroad fuel is delivered to you).

That is true, but if you get dipped I hope you can afford a fine minimum $3k - $5k per vehicle, and it can jump higher as additional agencies are notified.

Collier Sheriff participates in sting to find untaxed, dyed diesel fuel : Naples Daily News

Depending on all of the confused law involved; You can be fined by the city, county, state, EPA, DOT, IRS, etc.

This fine assume GUILT and must be paid NOW, then you are allowed to fight the GOV later.

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JB3 · #35 10-24-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter

That is true, but if you get dipped I hope you can afford a fine minimum $3k - $5k per vehicle, and it can jump higher as additional agencies are notified.

Collier Sheriff participates in sting to find untaxed, dyed diesel fuel : Naples Daily News

Depending on all of the confused law involved; You can be fined by the city, county, state, EPA, DOT, IRS, etc.

This fine assume GUILT and must be paid NOW, then you are allowed to fight the GOV later.

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hes talking about taxed diesel, not off road red dye. Getting it delivered to you in the same way a fleet will get fuel delivered to their personal pump. dipped will make no difference, same green dye

No crime involved.

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(actual taxed onroad fuel is delivered to you).

whunter · #36 10-24-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

hes talking about taxed diesel, not off road red dye. Getting it delivered to you in the same way a fleet will get fuel delivered to their personal pump. dipped will make no difference, same green dye

No crime involved.

I misunderstood.

I checked, my municipality won't allow an outside tank.

Thanks for the idea.

My big concern is the local depot fuel supply quality, I have reports from commercial contractors trucking it in from out of state, because of local contamination (corruption?).

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Simpler=Better · #37 10-24-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter

I misunderstood.

I checked, my municipality won't allow an outside tank.

Thanks for the idea.

My big concern is the local depot fuel supply quality, I have reports from commercial contractors trucking it in from out of state, because of local contamination (corruption?).

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Ah that's rough

Being able to fill up in your own driveway is wonderfully convenient. Only thing missing was the 7-11 hotdog roller

whunter · #38 10-24-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Simpler=Better

Ah that's rough

Being able to fill up in your own driveway is wonderfully convenient. Only thing missing was the 7-11 hotdog roller

I was looking at these for a friend, just before I saw your post

Star Hot Dog Roller Grill with Sneeze Guard

STAR Hotdog steamer

HOLMAN-QCS-3-COMMERCIAL-HIGH-VOLUME-BUN-BREAD-CONVEYOR

HOT DOG STEAMER

Hot Dog Rollers

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barry12345 · #39 10-24-2013, 10:23 PM

Takes me back to the low tech days of hot dogs. Standing around bonfires roasting our weenies that is. Plus warming our buns.

Seriously though can an individual launch an official complaint to consumers affairs or some similar government department. The states citizens appear to be getting ripped off with substandard fuel.

I thought there were minumin fuel quality requirements pretty well everywhere. Well I suppose some authority could be under the influence of the oil company refining diesel for michagan. .

If more than one refinery has adopted practices like this there is a really big problem. I am surprised it is not an everyday discussion among heavy truck and equipment owners. To put stuff like that through 200k equipment would certainly concern me.

whunter · #40 10-25-2013, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

Takes me back to the low tech days of hot dogs. Standing around bonfires roasting our weenies that is. Plus warming our buns.

Seriously though can an individual launch an official complaint to consumers affairs or some similar government department. The states citizens appear to be getting ripped off with substandard fuel.

I thought there were minumin fuel quality requirements pretty well everywhere. Well I suppose some authority could be under the influence of the oil company refining diesel for michagan. .

If more than one refinery has adopted practices like this there is a really big problem. I am surprised it is not an everyday discussion among heavy truck and equipment owners. To put stuff like that through 200k equipment would certainly concern me.

It may be even simpler.
We have a large WW2 refinery, downriver = south side of Detroit.
Much of the infrastructure has been running 110% capacity for fifty years, and they have been fighting all kinds of breakdowns - spills, etc.

The warnings have become more dire every year since 1979.....

Gosh, could the equipment be tired and unreliable?????

A few years ago, they suddenly got US GOV permission to build a new updated facility, because of health, safety, EPA, and other issues.

Gee, perhaps that is why the corp is frantically buying everything surrounding the plant for their NEW Massively Expanded plant.

Hey, you don't suppose all of their best people are working on the ???

Better stop the thought there.

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barry12345 · #41 10-25-2013, 10:49 AM

Your comments on one pretty well locked in supplier with a worn out refinery for your area make a lot of sense. No wonder some companies are trucking in their fuel from other sources. The problem for small users is the current fuel problems locally could still go on for years.

Mark DiSilvestro · #42 10-25-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter

That is true, but if you get dipped I hope you can afford a fine minimum $3k - $5k per vehicle, and it can jump higher as additional agencies are notified.

Collier Sheriff participates in sting to find untaxed, dyed diesel fuel : Naples Daily News

Depending on all of the confused law involved; You can be fined by the city, county, state, EPA, DOT, IRS, etc.

This fine assume GUILT and must be paid NOW, then you are allowed to fight the GOV later.

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The irony about all this hype over untaxed road-fuel is that for quite awhile now (at least in my area) home heating oil and kerosene has been selling for MORE that taxed road diesel fuel. I just filled the oil-tank at my parent's home in Virginia beach and it was $3.87/gal, while at the same time, diesel at the local Kroger was $3.69. And here in Alexandria, the last time I filled up at my neighborhood Texaco, kerosene dispensed at the same island was about 40 cents higher than diesel. Still, there was that big decal on the pump, warning against unlawfully using kerosene in a vehicle!

Happy Motoring, Mark

whunter · #43 12-29-2017, 11:52 PM

NOTE: I replaced both filters + cleaned the tank strainer last month.

Current weather:
Humidity 84%.
Wind Speed SW 10 mph.
Light Snow Fog/Mist 15°F (-9°C).
Wind Chill 3°F (-16°C).

Road conditions are poor.
Snow + Icy wintry mix on the roads = serious traction issues.

I filled the 240D on the way home tonight.
Power loss almost shut down the engine three blocks out of the station.

I limped into a parking lot and left it running, poured in an ounce of BioBore + a full bottle of StarTron.
The whole car was shaking (roughly 500 RPM), and the exhaust odor was putrid.

Ten minutes holding the throttle to the floor until reaching roughly 1000 RPM.

Searched the trunk and passenger compartment for my gallon of 2 stroke oil.
Found it stuck under the passenger front seat, and (being COLD ANGRY) dumped the full gallon in = filled the tank to the spill point.

Cold and exhausted I got back in the car, determined to make it home.
Struggled back onto the street at roughly 1/3 power.

Five miles later I was home + full power is back, exhaust odor is normal, idle is back to roughly 750 RPM.

Good night, and happy new year to all.

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OM617YOTA · #44 12-30-2017, 12:47 AM

Crazy stuff. You mentioned construction companies trucking fuel in from out of area, could you pay them to fill up at their pumps? Even if they charged a bit on top of the fuel cost you'd probably be ahead; Biobore, Startron, and two stroke oil aren't free either. Did you ever nail down what exactly the cause is, or find anything in the clear quart jar you were testing with before pumping into your car? Ever try adding one additive at a time to see which one exactly makes the difference, vs. a shotgun cocktail approach? Might tell you if it's a bio issue, a lubricity issue, or a cetane issue. Even if there's no way to solve it except for the additives, you might at least be able to save a little money by using one additive instead of a bunch. Anything show up in your filters?

Our fuel here usually smells like sulfur at the pump and vaguely of burning plastic out the exhaust. Sometimes the exhaust smells worse than other times and some tanks make the engine noticeably more clattery than others. I continue to find water droplets and rust bits in my settling bowl fuel filter, despite having replaced all the fuel lines and the tank. Fine for months and then get a bad tank of fuel. I have no idea how people get by on their stock filtration around here, I'm so stinking happy I installed that settling bowl filter.

I filled up at the B20 station today(also less expensive), and was pleasantly surprised with how the truck ran a few miles down the road. Good stuff, will make more of an effort to fuel up there in the future.

rocky raccoon · #45 12-30-2017, 07:24 AM

Most of the time, diesel fuel comes from the same contract supplier regardless of the brand of the local station in which you buy it. The problem lies with the diesel jobber.