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Old 06-25-2004, 12:57 PM
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Question Spark Plugs

a friend of mine was telling me that he's heard of a diesel having spark plugs
i think it's on an american car don't know
which throught
is he full of it or what

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Old 06-25-2004, 01:04 PM
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Ask him if it's the type that need frequency grease and if they're installed near the muffler bearings.
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You have to rent a SKy Hook to get them out of your car....
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Old 06-25-2004, 02:06 PM
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I heard they used Johson bearings on the bullshaft to improve the mileage.
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Old 06-25-2004, 02:12 PM
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Early, early diesels had a "hot bulb" that created the fuel/air ignition instead of using high compression ratios. But that's about all I've ever heard of.
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This thread got my attention

Spark plugs in the diesel forum.
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Tangent,

I don't mean to burst the humorus bubble of the other guys on this board but many older Diesels had spark plugs. By older Diesels I mean industrial engines from the 20's to the 60's. Check industrial museums and junkyards with old construction machinery in them.
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These engines either had gasoline 'pony' starting engines on them or they strated on gasoline and then switched over to Diesel or kerosine. In the latter case the engine would have had spark plugs. I remember seeing Diesel engines in which you had to light small wooden 'punks' and put them in special holders on the engine. This acted like a modern glow plug. Hence the name.
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An engine that starts on gasoline and then switches over to diesel or kerosene is not a diesel engine. I'd call it a gasoline diesel hybrid. Diesel engines by definition are compression ignition engines, i.e. no spark plugs.
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The Diesel engines I am refering to are Diesels in the fullest sense of the word since they operate using a Diesel cycle in their normal running mode. The fact that one has to push start a gasoline engine does not mean it is not an Otto cycle engine. Starting a Diesel engine with a pull rope does not mean that it is not a Diesel cycle engine.
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I saw a device that was basically a flame thrower that was used to preheat some old diesel engine. It had a coil and spark plug to ignite it. Don't know what the engine was, I was under the impression it was from a truck or earthmover.
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Old 06-25-2004, 07:47 PM
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Very old Detroit Diesels had spark plugs. I was getting a new head for a 16v92 at Stewart & Stevenson in Galveston (I think) many years ago and there was an ancient shrimper in buying spark plugs for his equally ancient boat. I waited till he had left before I asked the parts man about the purchase. He told me that some of the old Detroits (or whatever their name was way back then) in the from the 30's had spark plugs to help them get started.
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Bucyrus Erie BullGrader No. 53226

Note the two sides of the engine of this rig. No, this is not a trick photo set!













(Searching for a conversation I had with my father about five years ago, when he took pics of a rig in Alamo, NV. Ah, here it is
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quote:2-7-2000

Re: Bucyrus Erie
> > era 1945
> >
> > Gasoline or Diesel ?
>
> This is _really_ weird! It sure looks like a diesel on
> one side, and it has a distributor on the other. Weird.

Well, ----- it was a loaded question.

It actually is ---> BOTH

The gas tank looks like it could hold about 1/2 gallon
The diesel tank looks like 15 / 20 gallons possibly

The idea is that you start it on gasoline and warm it up
and then switch over to diesel to use for loads.

While the injection pump has failed, it does start and will
move around ( I am told ) on gasoline, but does not have
enough power to do any work. It was driven to the
site you see in the three pictures -- in Alamo, NV

I thought you would appreciate this bit of trivia
part of the floral and fauna of Alamo

> [later]
> It was a possibility that I'd considered,
> but I was having trouble figuring out a
> compression ratio that would allow a
> diesel (min. 18:1, as far as I know)
> and a gas engine (max about 14:1) run
> with the same mechanicals. This sort of
> arrangement used to be fairly
> common for dual-fuel small engines in
> the east: start up on gasoline, switch
> over to kerosene, but in that case the
> compression has to be _lowered_ to
> work. B&S had a service bulletin about
> it, to install TWO head gaskets for
> proper operation.
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i believe the tractor pictured is an international td6 with a
bucyrus erie dozer attachment. usually these tractors were
red which inproved thier proformance.

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Old 06-26-2004, 11:44 AM
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I know very little about these vintage offroad rigs -- I'm willing to take your word for it, esp. because the 'dozer attachment has the BE plate on it, not the chassis.
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Does a bulldozer get it's name from being a machine that allowed the beast of burden some time off?

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