Jay your car goes very well even before the turbo

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190E 3.0-24v (M104 980) turbo @ 0.8 bar
1/4 mile: 2.483 / 13.540 / 175.17 km/h (street tires)

I concur, increasing flow through injectors is not going to help you. If you were already running a forced induction setup, chances are you would run out of injector quickly, mandating a injector upgrade. You have limited choices with CIS to control fuel flow, even on newer model cars, there is no way to control this without using a piggy back ECU. You also run into problems with MAF voltages getting out of factory spec when you run forced induction, although on your car, a MAF is not a problem.

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1993 500E
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Looks like too low!

This should work much better but you should install knock sensing and control it with Megasquirt. I do it on every car and it works just great!

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it depends on whats limiting you with you current setup, yuo would need a dyno and wideband to know, but even with correcting fueling and advancing ignition you may still be limited with your upgrade hp potential, also fuel quality in your area may limit how advanced you can run your ignition map, but like said a knock sensor is needed for this level tuning, and it is alot of expense for limited N.A. gain,

but you *may* be able to get the gains u are after with a cold air intake and free flowing exhaust with some more tuning control on a dyno, and yea cams would probebly be necessary, but this will be expensive, going forced is the cheapest hp to dollar option

pumpish has had amazing results with the m103 and has lots of good things to say about the build quality, but ud have to get a hairdryer on it to really test it to his levels

Its true that since the most daunting part of installing a stand alone sys is out of your way, installing a turbo would be a piece of piss really

But even if you want to stay N/A, having removed the CIS fuel plate i recommend either fitting a larger throttle body, or even ditching the original intake runners for higher flowing sys like that of an M3 engine EURO spec, you don’t need to have six throttle body units, just one on the main feed behind the air filter.

I really think building a high power N/A setup will be a lot of fun and a lot less prone to failure than turbo charging, with a more natural feel to power delivery.

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Jay,
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-1995 Blue W202 C36 AMG (M) SOLD ;(
-1995 Black W140 S500 (Lady)
-1992 Black W124 E300 (Dima) (Ex-Mosselman
Twin turbo Kit).
-1988 Black W124 300 E 4-Matic.(Nadeen)
-1983 Brown W126 500SEL.(Old Lady)(Sold)
-1981 Gold W123 280CE.(Dareen)(Sold)
http://www.youtube.com/user/jayrasheed

dont tell him that!
u gota go forced

Lol
oki i wont , i have gone that route anyways and if it wasn’t for the scary fuel consumption i wouldn’t complain ever. And he has ditched the cis already, so I guess he will be fairing a lot better than me on all counts power and economy.

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Jay,
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-1995 Blue W202 C36 AMG (M) SOLD ;(
-1995 Black W140 S500 (Lady)
-1992 Black W124 E300 (Dima) (Ex-Mosselman
Twin turbo Kit).
-1988 Black W124 300 E 4-Matic.(Nadeen)
-1983 Brown W126 500SEL.(Old Lady)(Sold)
-1981 Gold W123 280CE.(Dareen)(Sold)
http://www.youtube.com/user/jayrasheed

Roman, thanks for the ignition map, I'll try it as soon as I get the knock sensing working. Hope to do it this saturday/sunday , I just have to install the knock sensor . As to the FI route, for me that's just a matter of time, probably by the years end , just have to have some free time .

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190E 3.0-24v (M104 980) turbo @ 0.8 bar
1/4 mile: 2.483 / 13.540 / 175.17 km/h (street tires)

well a lot of choices and options as i see
I forgot about upgrading the injectors, what i did was changing the distributor and the injectors that i got from bosch. Mine were dead.
That was a regular maintenance.
Now i am looking for turbocharger kit as it seem the best way to get some more for the money you spend.
I didnt find any interresting yet and i dont know what would the kit cost me.
Help again guys.
PS: As i said before i am looking for around some 50 Hp more on my 300E

Ok man, the best way to go is find a couple of small turbo chargers kkk04, kkk16…. Orgo for a single turbo setup, maybe a mitsubishi evo 6 turbo those are great ones, make a 2 into 1 pipe that bolts to ur exhaust manifolds and to the turbo, get ur self a w202 230K intercooler. Now if u want to keep ur CIS look for the fuel distributor with the part number ending 042. This fuel distributor will give u enough fuel for upto and NO MORE than 0.5 bar boost. U will also want to make a small logic circuitry made of comparators just so that it reads from a map sensor so that when u have boost it triggers the full enrichment switch (making the fuel distributor think its on full throttle) this will give u enough fuel for part throttle runs. This is the crudest and quickest way to get ur self boosted and back on the road.
Other option, better option, would be fit 2 additional injectors, get a split second controller and keep everythin else stock.

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Jay,
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-1995 Blue W202 C36 AMG (M) SOLD ;(
-1995 Black W140 S500 (Lady)
-1992 Black W124 E300 (Dima) (Ex-Mosselman
Twin turbo Kit).
-1988 Black W124 300 E 4-Matic.(Nadeen)
-1983 Brown W126 500SEL.(Old Lady)(Sold)
-1981 Gold W123 280CE.(Dareen)(Sold)
http://www.youtube.com/user/jayrasheed

altho jayrash has said everything fast which makes it look alot easier than it actually is, if you are commited to this and have alot of time and enjoy tinkering alot with your car this is an ok route, if your are not mechanically minded this may be a very large challenge,

but i say hey go for it, join the boosted benz club :-)

Man it aint easy, I had an almost complete kit and it took me 3 months to iron out all the troubles. Thing is now if am to go and do it all over again I know how to go about it, I surely wont go for a 2 turbo setup as with the new turbo tech in the market like on those turbos used on the mitsubish evo, there is no need for a twin setup. Also instead of custom making exhaust manifolds, just have the piping made from the originals of the car to feed into the turbo. This way the hardest part of the install would be measuring and cutting pipes for exhaust and air, but considering how rare it is to find a kit for those cars these days it might be the only option left. As for the stock injection system, I highly recommend to have it replaced for a stand alone sys, but if tight on budget and time my option of doing thins still holds it weight, though consumption will be silly ridiculous.
Again I say it turbo charging a car especially when custom making and fitting stuff, is one big headache but results are worth it.
Hope to have an addition to the boosted Benz club

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Jay,
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-1995 Blue W202 C36 AMG (M) SOLD ;(
-1995 Black W140 S500 (Lady)
-1992 Black W124 E300 (Dima) (Ex-Mosselman
Twin turbo Kit).
-1988 Black W124 300 E 4-Matic.(Nadeen)
-1983 Brown W126 500SEL.(Old Lady)(Sold)
-1981 Gold W123 280CE.(Dareen)(Sold)
http://www.youtube.com/user/jayrasheed

as i already said i started the job. I dont need the car for the moment since i got a E320 W210. Now i will be looking as Jay said for an evo6 turbo and fit up an itercooler.
When working a bit on my car i noticed a problem that one of 300E owners can help me solve it.
My car was a 5shifts manual car converted to automatic before i bought it. I am noticing that the car doesnt go up more than 190km per hour. I am wondering if i have to change the differential or other parts in it to be fully converted to automatic since the manual W124 has a 5shifts and the automatic is just 4 gears. I feel that one gear is missing, the car is running 34 rpm when speeding at 100km which is find pretty much high. And the rpm keep going up faster than the speed which makes the car do 45 rpm for just 130km per hour.
what might be the problem...differential or other parts should be changed?
what about the speedo? any electrical parts might be the problem?
My speedo even shows the 4th gear yellow marker at 200km, usualy on a normal 300E there is no 4th gear marker coz it got only 4!
Then the E and S switch near my shift knob doesnt seems to work...it doesnt change a thing.
helpppppppppp?

Easiest was to net 50 hp would be to replace your motor with a M104 from a 300sl (228 hp). Well, ok, maybe not the easiest, but probably cheaper and easier to maintain.

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1993 500E
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Well Man if ur thinking of boosting this car, going back to a manual isn't that bad an idea. Any way looks like its a short diff on the car i would say either 3.46 ratio or that of the 300-24 short diff (maybe a 3.67). look for a 3.07 or at max 3.27 and if u happen to find ASD one while at it go for it, those even with no hydraulic pressure do offer a slight LSD lockup.

Good luck with ur project.
ps: dont bother much with the E-S selector, unless u just like havin everything working properly, in that case am sure ur car is missing the vacuum actuator and also prolly most of the vacuum lines.

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Jay,
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-1995 Blue W202 C36 AMG (M) SOLD ;(
-1995 Black W140 S500 (Lady)
-1992 Black W124 E300 (Dima) (Ex-Mosselman
Twin turbo Kit).
-1988 Black W124 300 E 4-Matic.(Nadeen)
-1983 Brown W126 500SEL.(Old Lady)(Sold)
-1981 Gold W123 280CE.(Dareen)(Sold)
http://www.youtube.com/user/jayrasheed