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Hatterasguy 05-30-2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel (Post 1520576)
They won't, especially when the ones that are suppose to govern with neutrality join the fanatic.

And yes, it is an MB thing. Hattie, you should be ashamed of yourself.

For what please tell, I'm dying to hear...

Hatterasguy 05-30-2007 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 1520602)
Doesn't that word translate to, "stupid"? I don't think Hitler was a stupid man at all. Quite the opposite. There are all manner of theories concerning his mental stability and I think most of them are probably going the right direction. His mania spoke to a people who were treated very unfairly post WWI. His vision provided them with a "reason" for their current miserable status, despite the obvious native intelligence and ability of the people, and also a clear avenue for escape -- strength. People were so sick of their condition that they ignored the signs of insanity in favor of the dream he offered. Even the decent people who met him and knew he was dangerous self-censored, believing that they could control him.

I think what finally saved the USSR and lowered the casualty rate among the western Allies was his addiction to stimulants, a wonderful combination of cocaine and meth, IIRC. Drug-enhanced sociopathic megalomania helped dissociate him from the world making his military and state decisions less and less sensible.

Towards the end he couldn't be reasoned with. By 1945 his orders were starting to be ignored by his Generals. He would give orders to attack a city, and the army that was supposed to attack either didn't exist anymore, or were running as fast as possible from the Russians. I think after the fall of Paris he was pretty much in his own world.

hill 05-30-2007 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor (Post 748231)
You are trying to state revisionist history.......

Russia definately shortend the war by saping German resources......but We would still have won even without them. It just would have taken longer and cost more American lives.

Are you sure of this statement? General Patton disagreed with your analysys

hill 05-30-2007 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fahrgewehr2 (Post 748794)
In addition, Russia and Germany were close to actual military alliance before Hitler committed his blunder

This is not true. Hitler had planned operation Barbarossa before the Pact of Steel. Stalin only entered into that phony agreement so that he could build up his military, as after the officer purges the effectiveness of the Soviet Military was severely compromised, as seen in the Finnish Campaign of '39.

Stalin knew the Krauts were coming, just thought he had bought more time.

Oh my god another history buff! Barbarosa was planned before even the invasion of Poland. According to my Grandmachen before the purge of reformist and Jewish generals this was discussed.


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