And what happened to Mr Reed? Oh yes... I remember.

Well, they don't have to be alternatives; protect the crew, but if that fails, have backup. Modern encryption means it would be secure. It could even be automated - come with a minimum distance of a sensitive area, and it kicks in. Whadya think?

Not sure I'd want half a dozen airliners blowing up in self-destruct mode every time the president takes an unscheduled jaunt across his Texas ranch. Did you know there's a moving permanent, um, temorary restricted area that follows him everywhere he goes?

No, you wouldn't get me on a self-destructing or remote-pilotable airlinre. No siree.

Fair enough, I didn't really believe it held water myself.

OK -- here you go: Pentagon Strike. If nothing else, you have to give it up to these guys in regard to production qualities. This initially caught my eye as I distinctly recall being astonished by the complete lack of recognizable evidence of a plane crash in the video coverage from the Pentagon site.

I notice that everybody's address is nowhere near the DC, MD and VA area so let me just chime in. You will immediately understand why there is no way in hell any defense system could have saved the building if you have ever driven by the Pentagon on RT110. The flight path is literally parallel to the building on final approach and so is RT110, all it takes is one twist of the control and you plow right into the building. For that matter, the Capital Building is another twist away.

Whether or not I believe it doesn’t matter, I think it’s well produced and just like to watch it.



http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main

There were so many pictures and videos of the planes at the world trade centers and none of the plane at the pentagon. There was a delay with interviewing witnesses to the pentagon crash, like they had to train some.

The media and the government press people did a very poor job of covering the pentagon attack. This lead to some wild speculation to fill in the gaps in the story. Many in this generation of people will never accept the official stories as anywhere near the truth.

Like it or not the PA amounts to a form of martial law. 911 sure was a convenient excuse to impose the PA on us and allow major oil real estate acquisitions at the same time.

There is a good chance that the Trade Centers needed to be torn down as were many structures built by the criminal construction companies in that era because of inferior material and other cost cutting measures. Professionals couldn't have done a much cleaner demolition job.

Globalization will continue on full tilt with the multinational corporations having more power and money as time passes and the citizens having less power and fewer opportunities. Related or not, we will never know with 100% certainty.

"Conspiracy theory" is an en-masse ad Hominem attack which basically is another form of killing the messenger. The use of that term is a logical fallacy and a propaganda technique. Usually it correctly translates to "we don't want to talk about that."

The 911 attack was a conspiracy, period, no question. Who was involved? We will likely never know the answer to that one with 100% certainty.

I saw it from fairly close.............that wing of the pentagon was recently renovated and the upgrades kept it from being worse than it was. I was less than a mile away at the time....at my office where you can see the pentagon from the roof. I was in that wing 12 hours earlier.

Fact is the Pentago is seconds from Ronald Regan National Airport, and only minutes from Dulles Intternational airport. The Decision to shoot down hijacked aircraft did not come till after the pentagon was hit. But before the brave passengers of the 4th one brought it down.

Many will never buy that story either. There were network TV news reports that a passenger with a cell phone reported an explosion and smoke at altitude before the plane came down. Some parts of the plane came down at locations miles apart indicating that it came apart at altitude. There are enough indications that the plane was shot down to cast doubts on the reason for end of that flight.

Well some people insist space aliens abducted them..........

Some people will refuse to see the forest for all the trees.

I for one saw a very small wreckage field........sort of what happened in Pittsburgh a short number of years ago with the rudder problem that had the plain in a vertical dive at 500+mph. A midair breakup would not have that.

But like I said......some people will argue the sun is not up at 12 noon......

Are you serious? :confused: You think that OUR government conspired with the terrorists to take down the WTC? Is that what you're implying? If so, you truly HAVE jumped off the conspiracy-theory cliff! :rolleyes:

Have you not seen or read ANY information about the WTC towers? They were state-of-the art buildings at the time they were built, and were more than capable of withstanding pretty much any catastrophe that was forseeable at the time they were designed....hurricane-force winds, lightening, earthquake, internal fire (albeit a fire without tons of jet fuel!)....They easily survived the first terrorist attempt on them (remember the parking level bombing in '93?)

They were hardly "inferior" structures, just because they did not withstand the 9-11 attacks.... NO high-rise building on this planet was ever designed to withstand an intentional impact from a very large commercial airliner, flying at maximum speed, with nearly a full load of highly explosive fuel! The need to build a structure that could withstand such an event had not ever been considered prior to 9-11 , even by the most thorough and/or paranoid designers/engineers/architects, because such an event had never occurred, or was even imagined.

Mike

haha....

Well, I don't know about alien abduction stories...

But to assume that, out of the trillions of stars and planets and other assorted objects in the universe, this planet is the only one with life on it is a long shot at best, isn't it?

The odds overwhelmingly say "yes, there IS life elsewhere".

Otherwise, what is all the rest of that crap there for? The universe would be an infinitely massive waste of space and materials and energy, would it not?

Oops....sorry. I didn't intend to hijack this thread. If we want to debate this topic, let's take it to its own thread.

Mike

The odds there is other life out there, and they came here, and only abduct people in trailer parks and return them afterwards is a huge leap beyond acknowledging the odds are there is other life out there.