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Old 01-12-2005, 07:25 PM
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Wireless Network with FastAccess DSL

OK, here is the situation. I have BellSouth FastAccess DSL and want to set up a wireless network so that two PCs and a laptop can access the internet from time to time. Seems simple enough but here is the wrinkle, my connection from BellSouth is via fiber optic line which does not require a modem. The PC is connected directly to the DSL line into the house using an Ethernet cable. The absence of a modem seems to cause problems with a wireless network. BellSouth is of no help since they would rather sell me (for a monthly fee) their network equipment. I have tried using a wireless router, which worked for a time, but would loose the IP address dropping the connection. Anyone have a solution other than paying BellSouth more money?

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Old 01-12-2005, 07:32 PM
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OK, here is the situation. I have BellSouth FastAccess DSL and want to set up a wireless network so that two PCs and a laptop can access the internet from time to time. Seems simple enough but here is the wrinkle, my connection from BellSouth is via fiber optic line which does not require a modem. The PC is connected directly to the DSL line into the house using an Ethernet cable. The absence of a modem seems to cause problems with a wireless network. BellSouth is of no help since they would rather sell me (for a monthly fee) their network equipment. I have tried using a wireless router, which worked for a time, but would loose the IP address dropping the connection. Anyone have a solution other than paying BellSouth more money?
Make sure your router setting is "Keep alive" instead of redial after inactivity" what kind of router do you have? I'm betting that its a Belkin or Dlink.
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:01 PM
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I am on my second Linksys Wireless-G Broadband router. After talking with the Linksys tech folks in India numerous times, they replaced the router without any improvement. They eventually said the router would not work in my environment where there is not a modem.
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Alternative # 2 is get a second NIC and set up a bridge in the same PC I had it working once and liked it. Only Win 2k and up though.

The reason I'm betting on a Belkin router is that they notoriously have trouble renewing IP's.

Have you upgraded the firmware for the router?

Have you checked your router manufacture's white papers?
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:58 AM
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I think a dual nic is the best solution, but it's going to be difficult, if not impossible to do if you don't have a dedicated IP address. If you don't have dedicated IP, the next option is this software:

http://www.winproxy.com/products/winproxy.asp

which might work with a dynamic IP. You can try it for free, and pay like $60 if you want to keep it. It will set up your entry point computer as a proxy server that then provides gateway services to other computers on the network.
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Old 01-13-2005, 07:20 PM
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I think a dual nic is the best solution, but it's going to be difficult, if not impossible to do if you don't have a dedicated IP address. If you don't have dedicated IP, the next option is this software:

http://www.winproxy.com/products/winproxy.asp

which might work with a dynamic IP. You can try it for free, and pay like $60 if you want to keep it. It will set up your entry point computer as a proxy server that then provides gateway services to other computers on the network.

I did manage to get W2k pro to work with the double NIC, that was 6 years ago so I don't really recall exactly how I did it other than I followed a MS white paper on it. I'd imagine XP can do it as well but hey I like to do it the hard way I do like winproxy but I always try to find something within Windoze before add-ons give me a pain in the ass.
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Old 01-13-2005, 07:35 PM
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It used to be easy when the ISPs were handing out static IPs like candy. Now they charge about a hundred a month to have a dedicated IP. Standard packages are all dynamic IPs now, and dual nics won't work with dynamic IPs under Windows. One card can be dynamic, but the Internet link has to be static.

I agree there has to be a modem of some sort in there somewhere IF he has a copper Ethernet connection. If he has a fiber optic nic, then his fiber optic cable plugs directly into it. I know ATT in Dallas has been setting systems up like that, they are running pure fiber all over town, it is possible he has the same deal in his town. It is the way of the future - it saves them a $200 box per DSL drop that they keep having to throw in for free anyway. That's a lot of damn money for them. My bet that is why his Linkys router didn;t work - its not a fiber optics router, its for copper Ethernet connections. They make routers with a single fiber port that also has copper ports. That is probably what he needs, but those ain't cheap. Linksys may make one in the 150$ range, but I doubt it.

If it was me, I'd buy the 60$ software and pester their tech support to see if it can make a PC running dual dynamic IP nics to act as a router. Plug the fiber on one side and then plug the other nic into a cheap hub, then plug the rest of the network into the hub.
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Old 01-13-2005, 08:54 PM
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If it was me, I'd buy the 60$ software and pester their tech support to see if it can make a PC running dual dynamic IP nics to act as a router. Plug the fiber on one side and then plug the other nic into a cheap hub, then plug the rest of the network into the hub.
Ditto, and if you want to go totally nuts use the desktop as a server/workstation......hmmmmmmm now I'm thinking about something....nahhh I have a couple other projects to finish first...check webcam thread in about 2 minutes.

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