so as not hijack the other thread--music woes

[azimuth]

on another thread, the discussion of music and taste presented itself. I wonder if i'm just old or is there really a dearth of talent in the indusrty?

mikemover suggested that as musician having been through the ringer, he sees that he has to sift through the "garbage" to find the good stuff.

it seems to me that when i was younger the good stuff was so abundant it found me. what's up?

Originally Posted by azimuth

on another thread, the discussion of music and taste presented itself. I wonder if i'm just old or is there really a dearth of talent in the indusrty?

mikemover suggested that as musician having been through the ringer, he sees that he has to sift through the "garbage" to find the good stuff.

it seems to me that when i was younger the good stuff was so abundant it found me. what's up?

That's about it, I thought new bands sucks until I got XM and discovered many good bands. Wading through the commercials and BS on FM is painful at best on XM you can pick your genre and will discover groups that fall into that category.

[MTI]

It depends on how you're getting your "content." When dinosaurs walked the earth, there was a tribe of folks called "disc jockeys" that could select what they spun out to the other tribesmen, listening in on their 7 transistor Sony radios or in their parent's Oldsmobile VistaCruiser. Then came the "age of consolidation, playlists, and corporate programming" so that every station, whether in Mephis, TN or Seattle, WA sounded the same because they were all playing the same tunes by the artists that the record companies deemed worthy. Soon, every "Clear Channel" will be taken over . . .

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by azimuth

on another thread, the discussion of music and taste presented itself. I wonder if i'm just old or is there really a dearth of talent in the indusrty?

mikemover suggested that as musician having been through the ringer, he sees that he has to sift through the "garbage" to find the good stuff.

it seems to me that when i was younger the good stuff was so abundant it found me. what's up?

It's simple. You're old. Or do as MedMech, Suganami and I have done and discover XM. You'll here lots of great music on lots of channels. They even have a rock channel for new bands. I've heard some highly mediocre bands on there and a few pretty good ones. haven't heard Double Drive yet.

[boneheaddoctor]

I think there have been pitiful few decent new acts in recent years....and none outstanding..................the fools trying to sue everybody under the sun for file sharing should spend 1/2 that effort in finding new tallent.....

[Veloce300DT]

There are many new musicians out there creating some amazing music- you name it, and its out there! Think of the most obscure combination of genres, or somthing that sounds as good as the classics from our history- wether it be rock n roll, jazz, contemporary, singer-songwriter, or a mix of all of these things and newer styles- electronic, ambient, etc...
theres somthing for everybody! But with the corperate programming as mentioned by MTI, most people never really hear any of it if they try to find it on the radio, where this stuff is overshadowed by more popular music..... the top 40 listings today are horrifying- chalked full of manufactured bands, musicians, and artists that miserably fail to represent the talent and uniqueness of other lesser known, or less publicised current music... alot of university radio stations are trying to address this by playing new, non-commercial music of all genres, and it has become a huge success.
KDVS 90.3 FM, based in my home town of Davis Ca., is an extension of UC Davis's public outreach program, and offers listeners many different programs- news, talk, and music, online. They play a good mix of newer independent artists, and older independent artists of varying genres from decades past.

Check out www.kdvs.org for more info.

In addition, NPR frequently features new independnet artists- offering interviews, sound clips, and more. Stanford university is another school that has a similar radio station to KDVS- KZSU 90.1 (www.kzsu.stanford.edu)

And lastly, another favorite of mine is WGBH out of Boston- they play many artists, mostly jazz. Also offer NPR news.
www.wgbh.org

[boneheaddoctor]

Originally Posted by Veloce300DT

There are many new musicians out there creating some amazing music- you name it, and its out there! Think of the most obscure combination of genres, or somthing that sounds as good as the classics from our history- wether it be rock n roll, jazz, contemporary, singer-songwriter, or a mix of all of these things and newer styles- electronic, ambient, etc...
theres somthing for everybody! But with the corperate programming as mentioned by MTI, most people never really hear any of it if they try to find it on the radio, where this stuff is overshadowed by more popular music..... the top 40 listings today are horrifying- chalked full of manufactured bands, musicians, and artists that miserably fail to represent the talent and uniqueness of other lesser known, or less publicised current music... alot of university radio stations are trying to address this by playing new, non-commercial music of all genres, and it has become a huge success.
KDVS 90.3 FM, based in my home town of Davis Ca., is an extension of UC Davis's public outreach program, and offers listeners many different programs- news, talk, and music, online. They play a good mix of newer independent artists, and older independent artists of varying genres from decades past.

Check out kdvs.org for more info.

In addition, NPR frequently features new independnet artists- offering interviews, sound clips, and more. Stanford university is another school that has a similar radio station to KDVS- KZSU 90.1 (www.kzsu.stanford.edu)

I refuse to listen to NPR for personal reasons that can no long be discussed.....however none of the local Public radio stations promoted the kind of music I enjoy listening to anyway.

[azimuth]

Originally Posted by Botnst

It's simple. You're old......

damn....

[Veloce300DT]

HAHA! right as a clicked the submit post button I thought, uh oh, i mentioned NPR! Im gonna get BANNED! HAHA! Politics aside, npr can be used a source for all of you starving for some music other than the top 40.

[MTI]

Originally Posted by Veloce300DT

HAHA! right as a clicked the submit post button I thought, uh oh, i mentioned NPR! Im gonna get BANNED! HAHA! Politics aside, npr can be used a source for all of you starving for some music other than the top 40.

Nothing like going thru "All Songs Considered" or the music links on "The World" to freshen up the playlists.

http://www.npr.org/programs/asc/archives/lookahead05

http://www.theworld.org/globalhits/index.shtml

[boneheaddoctor]

Originally Posted by Veloce300DT

HAHA! right as a clicked the submit post button I thought, uh oh, i mentioned NPR! Im gonna get BANNED! HAHA! Politics aside, npr can be used a source for all of you starving for some music other than the top 40.

Not around here...............unless you are into Jazz or Classical...........

If you enjoy any flavor of rock and roll you won't find it on that unmentionible station.

[Plantman]

This goes to prove my point on another thread I started about Hall and Oates.

While it may not be everybody's flavor, the fact that 30 years have passed since their 1st #1 hit and they are still getting in the top 50 these days with new stuff, is a testament to their abilities.

Prince, Springsteen, The Stones....in an era of one hit wonders, these musicians are "timeless"

.02

[Veloce300DT]

I thought this was about music.... oh wait, im on the OPEN DISCUSSION. I'll keep my mouth shut the next time I bring up a link for MUSIC reference.

BTW, I hardly think Jazz or Classical could be considered part of the top 40 hits list (which is why i brought these genres to the table), constantly played and re-played over and over with Britney and the like, unless youre referring to SMOOTH jazz, which is a whole other abomination in itself!

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by Veloce300DT

HAHA! right as a clicked the submit post button I thought, uh oh, i mentioned NPR! Im gonna get BANNED! HAHA! Politics aside, npr can be used a source for all of you starving for some music other than the top 40.

Right after 9/11 my agency sent-out a notice that there was no expectation of privacy for computer usage and that anything could be read by the IT staff. Also, the talk about "Raptor" was going on. And then there's the "Echelon" system, a favorite of foil-hatters everywhere.

So my brother, who works for a security-conscious agency and I email each other ferquently and I mentioned this to him. He replied that they're probably searching for key words and phrases like, "Bomb, airplane, Allah Akbar!". I wrote back that his including that in an email might get us busted, especially if I included, "poison, TNT, household chemicals, President".

It was like playing chicken sending that lengthening note of increasingly incendiary words and phrases back and forth.

Nobody ever busted us, so either the system is lame, or they're watching me right now. And now they know about you. Better get your foil hat out quick!

[boneheaddoctor]

Originally Posted by Plantman

This goes to prove my point on another thread I started about Hall and Oates.

While it may not be everybody's flavor, the fact that 30 years have passed since their 1st #1 hit and they are still getting in the top 50 these days with new stuff, is a testament to their abilities.

Prince, Springsteen, The Stones....in an era of one hit wonders, these musicians are "timeless"

.02

I no longer include Springsteen on my list of people I listen to.................personal reasons.....

Prince isn't really timeless to me.....but the stones I agree.

I like a range of stuff.....I like a lot of Marylin Manson.........and I like the mamas and the Papas....

And I love Megadeath.........Appetite for Destruction

And Sex Pistols......Anarchy in the UK...

And a LOT of Metallica

I'm 43 that will surprise a lot of people with my taste in music.


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