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Old 05-11-2005, 06:29 PM
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Does anyone have some imput ?(L-o-n-g.)

I have spam filter and fire wall.

This little jewel managed to get through though.

There's a lot more to this than pasted here and it comes from.......

http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/SVS/WSVSF511/HOME.CFM?PAGE=2&PCODE=WSVSF511&ALIAS=fuse&o=143051&u=7136617&l=775583
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A Brief History of Derivatives
(The Most Dangerous and Controversial Financial Instruments Ever Created)
The giant bubble forming in the global derivatives market (led by America's big banks) bears frightening resemblance to the S&L crisis. In the 1980's a lack of regulation and oversight, allowed America's banks to trade dishonestly, hide losses and embezzle client and government funds. The same scenario is unfolding right now amongst the world's global derivatives traders. America's big banks, big corporations and mutual funds have turned into giant casinos...using unregulated over-the-counter and massively leveraged derivative bets as a new source of income...and as a way to disguise losses and dupe investors. The difference though to the S&L crisis, is that when the derivatives bubble finally blows, the fall-out will be 100 times worse. The S&L crisis cost American taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars and depressed the real estate market for years. But no pot will be big enough to bail out America this time.

BENEFITING FROM CRISIS:
Learn How One Group of Investors Learned How to Get In On 1794% and 796% as the Market Melted and the Dollar Fell
(And Discover How You Can Take Advantage of Similar Opportunities in 2005/2006)

In this report you'll learn about the single greatest threat the US economy and financial markets have faced in more than a generation. It's a ticking financial time bomb whose effects could dwarf by orders of magnitude those of the S&L Crisis of the late '80s...

But armed with the right information and a unique insight to today's markets-there is no reason to panic. Instead you can realize a decade's worth of profits in a year, sometimes months.

For example, when the dollar crashed in 2002, one group of investors learned how to turn the crisis into explosive gains by correctly anticipating the negative effects the war and other economic disasters would have on the dollar. We saw staggering gains of 1794% and 796% by recommending a little-known technique that allowed members to "rent" large amounts of hard currencies - yet with only risking a small amount of our money . And we reaped a further 25% on a conservative CD investment.

And that was just on the dollar crisis. Since March 2000 we've also seen double and triple digit gains on six of the gold stock we've picked. Plus we've enjoyed an impressive track record by taking advantage of a revolutionary new way to invest in a group of special funds. These unique funds have repeatedly outperformed traditional mutual funds year after year. The best of them has been up 749% since November 1999! Yet until recently, they were only a tool for well informed, wealthy investors.

All this at a time when the Dow, the S&P and the NASDAQ have shed 3%...20%...and 59% respectively...

Yet even these numbers will pale in comparison to the profits we expect you to see when the U.S. economy finally unravels.

My name is John Pugsley. I am Chairman of an elite group of international investors called the Sovereign Society. We are one of the world's most private - yet powerful - financial alliances. We operate far away from the corruption, greed and conflict of interest that is epidemic on Wall Street. Through an unrivalled team of 45 international experts, banking insiders, economists, forecasters, analysts, asset protection specialists, currency and precious metal experts we are able to steer a maverick group of American and foreign investors through economic storms safely and surely - even help them come out of it richer than before. We invite you to become one of those members today...and start reaping the same kind of mega-profits others have been enjoying since March 2000 when the great unravelling of the American economy began.

For decades our experts have accurately predicted major economic trends and disasters. In the early seventies I wrote a book called Common Sense Economics, which accurately predicted the inflationary explosion in America...and helped investors get rich off gold. In the mid-eighties, another of our experts James Dale Davidson warned of the coming collapse of global stock markets. Investors who adhered to James's advice saved their assets from the devastating losses that ensued after Black Monday. In the nineties James also forecasted the world's transformation from an industrial economy to an information economy...and was dubbed "one of the greatest geopolitical forecasters of all time".

And since 1999 we've been recommending our members retreat from mainstream investments to a small clutch of alternative investments that have been soaring since March 2000.

In this report, I'll tell you more about these investments. Plus I'll tell you about the single most disturbing development that we've been monitoring in the global financial system...a development that could have dire financial consequences...but which could also, once again, lead to profits of up to 1,894% - for those who are prepared...


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Old 05-12-2005, 12:21 AM
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Agora, based in Baltimore, is the largest financial newsletter publisher in the US - they've got a couple of dozen titles between themselves and affiliates. Some of them are pure crap, others are quite good. Unfortunately, what they all share is a classic direct mail advertising style that insults the reader's intelligence with hype, artificial crises, and seemingly deceitful returns, but apparently gets the 1-2% response rate typical of the industry. Sovereign Society isn't one of their better ones, and I'd avoid ALL of their stuff pitching derivatives (i.e. options).
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:37 AM
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Mt advise, get off AOL, or NetScape, or any of the high profile internet service providers. They are like $hit magnets!

Find a small ISP and you wont get spammed!
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:23 AM
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Mt advise, get off AOL, or NetScape, or any of the high profile internet service providers. They are like $hit magnets!

Find a small ISP and you wont get spammed!

I'm on Juno running WINXP Home edition.

Seems they got my e mail from a health site I get my vitamins from.

PC Dave : Thank for the heads up. Usually this kind of 1,000 percent plus
return is the give away.

1 to 2% returns ?....industry norm' ? How many do they send and how do they get around the ISP limits for mail outs ?

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Old 05-12-2005, 08:05 AM
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I'm on Juno running WINXP Home edition.

Seems they got my e mail from a health site I get my vitamins from.

PC Dave : Thank for the heads up. Usually this kind of 1,000 percent plus
return is the give away.

1 to 2% returns ?....industry norm' ? How many do they send and how do they get around the ISP limits for mail outs ?

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Since I've been on my current isp, ISP.COM, I have zero spam, and it runs fast for a 256mb! When I was on AOL, Net Scape, buy the way, both are the same company, and also Walmart connect and People PC, spam spam all the time and my pc ran slow because of all the anti-span devises they must provide. I don't use my pc any differently then before, so I have to assume my current isp isn't targeted as is those who use the above mentioned isp. IMHO........BB
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:55 PM
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1 to 2% returns ?....industry norm' ? How many do they send and how do they get around the ISP limits for mail outs ?

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I should clarify - those rates are for their snail mail direct mail campaigns, which are profuse (one of their affiliates even offers a home course for direct mail marketing...). I'm sure their email campaigns get lower response. BTW, they've got a LOT of different products, and if you've gotten on their list, you'll probably get all of them. Their advertising can be annoying, but they're a reputable group - if you get more, and it bugs you, it's worth calling or emailing them and telling them to take you off their lists.
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Sounds kind of like "prime bank fraud". Not very interesting.

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