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Old 05-12-2005, 07:36 PM
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Huh? How many people can't drive stick?

I heard two people talking and I heard that 82% of the US driving population do not know how to drive stick.

Would you agree with that? And where can I verify (if possible).?

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Old 05-12-2005, 07:50 PM
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Sounds a bit high to me as we still get a fair amount of sticks in the shop. Age doesn't really seem to be a factor either.
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Old 05-12-2005, 08:20 PM
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Unless it's from a sampling survey, how would they know? Can't go by car sales since a lot of "shift for yourself" folks become "shiftless" every now and then, especially if you have AMG ambitions.
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Old 05-12-2005, 09:58 PM
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Remember back when an auto tranny was an option on a vehicle?

Especially with econoboxes, don't remember why it was so tough to design an automatic for some of these?
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:16 PM
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Eeek!

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Do a google search, I've seen estimates as high as 90%.

...and with this article, that percentage will climb.
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0409/14/a01-271661.htm
You have *no* idea how much I hated reading that.

Ick.
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:19 PM
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Do a google search, I've seen estimates as high as 90%.

...and with this article, that percentage will climb.
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0409/14/a01-271661.htm
Just had to add:

Here's a quote from the article above:

In a car equipped with a manual transmission, gridlock can mean pushing and releasing a clutch pedal over and over again. And since some pedals are stiffer than others, driving can be physically exhausting. And talking on a cell phone and sipping coffee — favorite pastimes of today’s drivers — is much easier without worrying about shifting gears.

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You know, I'm sorry, but if pushing the clutch "exhausts" you, maybe you should join a gym.

Ok. I'll stop now.

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Old 05-12-2005, 11:39 PM
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Im 17 and never learned stick, though for my first car that I buy myself, it will have a manual transmission for sure. My dad hasn't had a stick shift since the late 80's I believe, his Toyota Tercel. So I never got a chance to learn.
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:30 AM
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I know how to drive a stick-shift, but I wouldn't want one to drive in rush hour traffic. My sister drives a 1994 Honda Accord with a stick shift and my mom used to drive a 1971 VW Cabriolet with one as well, and that's what they say is the only downfall to it. To me, there's already too many crazy people to look out for driving out there, all close together in rush hour, just add shifting and clutch depressing, and well, it's best to look out for crazy drivers with an auto tranny, so I can have both hands on the wheel in case I need to perform an extreme manuever quickly. Manual transmissions are better suited for open highway driving or racing in my opinion. As for the longetivity, as long as the transmission filters are changed at regular intervals along with a good, synthetic fluid, you can get a long life out of one.
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Uh Huh

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Originally Posted by GottaDiesel
Just had to add:

Here's a quote from the article above:

In a car equipped with a manual transmission, gridlock can mean pushing and releasing a clutch pedal over and over again. And since some pedals are stiffer than others, driving can be physically exhausting. And talking on a cell phone and sipping coffee — favorite pastimes of today’s drivers — is much easier without worrying about shifting gears.

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You know, I'm sorry, but if pushing the clutch "exhausts" you, maybe you should join a gym.

Ok. I'll stop now.

Pete
And if your FAVORITE pastime is drinking coffee driving, and chatting on your cell phone, you shouldnt be on the road anyways. you could hurt my car....
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Old 05-13-2005, 01:53 AM
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With all the advancements in transmissions, how long will it be before you can't buy a car with a clutch pedal?
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I learned on a stick, and wouldn't have it any other way. I think it played a big role in increasing my overall "road awareness", b/c I had to think about which gear I was in and the amount of torque I had available to the driving wheels, in case I had to get moving quickly.

Anyway, I had no problem driving a stick (my Mazda pickup) in heavy traffic. Got the 190 as an auto, drove it like that for over a year. Swapped in a manual, and it only took me a few days of heavy-traffic driving to get used to it again.
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Old 05-14-2005, 03:27 PM
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In a car equipped with a manual transmission, gridlock can mean pushing and releasing a clutch pedal over and over again. And since some pedals are stiffer than others, driving can be physically exhausting. And talking on a cell phone and sipping coffee — favorite pastimes of today’s drivers — is much easier without worrying about shifting gears.

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You know, I'm sorry, but if pushing the clutch "exhausts" you, maybe you should join a gym.

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I hate to sound like a weaney but more than once, after a long day on my feet, I've had to slug my way through SF traffic (it gets really bad) and my poor li'l left foot starts *****in'. That's on my BMW 325i, maybe the clutch is more stiff than others, don't know.

I much prefer a manual in most situations but myabe I'm just getting old and lazy, I'm liking automatics more and more.
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Old 05-13-2005, 07:31 AM
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Do a google search, I've seen estimates as high as 90%.

...and with this article, that percentage will climb.
http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosinsider/0409/14/a01-271661.htm
I find that hard to believe, I know one person over the age of 18 who can't drive a stick (my wife).

I think it's an important skill to have, and agree that all first time drivers should learn w/ a stick.
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Old 05-13-2005, 08:31 AM
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My wife never learned to drive a manual trans, so just started this spring with my M3. Empty church parking lots seem to be the best place to practice...
I was going to ask where the best place for my wife to learn was. I had miles of empty road to learn on.

Finally, a good use for a church.

Kidding!
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Old 05-13-2005, 10:14 AM
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I learnt on a stick. Never had any problems being exhausted in traffic. That said I wouldn't drive a high performance clutch in traffic all the time, they tend to be very stiff.
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