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Old 08-20-2005, 09:45 AM
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what constitutes racism?

something on another thread made me think of this question and it has come into my mind from time to time. i once had a girlfriend who accused me of being a racist because i would speak with a chinese accent sometimes. my family was taught to respect all people and we also used to do funny stuff like use different accents (e.g. british, chinese etc.) at times. i also enjoy the occasional ethnic joke. do you think that is racism is it something else to you? i'm just curious.
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Old 08-20-2005, 10:01 AM
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If you are constantly looking down on a race, IMO. I mean, if all your jokes are of the dumb black guy or something like that.

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Old 08-20-2005, 10:14 AM
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1) The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2) Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Only you know what you believe - what's in your heart? Using an accent in conversation or storytelling is not racist in and of itself, unless by doing so you wish to portray that particular race in an inferior position to your own.

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Old 08-20-2005, 11:32 AM
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sounds like your question has been answered.

humour knows no limits as regards race as far as im concerened. it may lack taste, but funny ***** is funny *****.

like dave chappelles skits. very very funny, even if they do make some people uncomfortable. those people need to take the carrots out their arses.
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sounds like your question has been answered.

humour knows no limits as regards race as far as im concerened. it may lack taste, but funny ***** is funny *****.

like dave chappelles skits. very very funny, even if they do make some people uncomfortable. those people need to take the carrots out their arses.
i'm really just interested in what poeple have to say about this. i already know i'm not a racist. chappelle is hilarious
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I think there are several variables involved. It depends on who says it. I'm jewish so I can tell a joke about jews. I could not (would not) make a joke about african americans. It also depends on perception as well as intent. An innocent comment can be perceived in a negative way if not understood properly.
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but is a jewish joke from me less funny because i'm black?

or because you are seeing it through a lens of the colour of my skin?

i believe if the joke is funny, the joke is funny. all the other stuff, like who said it, is the human race placing thier insecurities on display.
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Does disadvantaging a person based on racial background constitute racism?
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Old 08-21-2005, 12:11 AM
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Does creating a disadvantage for an individual, based on his/her race, constitute racism?
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:57 AM
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something on another thread made me think of this question and it has come into my mind from time to time. i once had a girlfriend who accused me of being a racist because i would speak with a chinese accent sometimes. my family was taught to respect all people and we also used to do funny stuff like use different accents (e.g. british, chinese etc.) at times. i also enjoy the occasional ethnic joke. do you think that is racism is it something else to you? i'm just curious.
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It's not racism. Your old gf didn't know what racism was and was talking out of her hat.
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It's not racism. Your old gf didn't know what racism was and was talking out of her hat.
Racism, likely not. Lacking in tact, possibly, depending on the situation. For stuff like this, context counts as much as content.
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Does creating a disadvantage for an individual, based on his/her race, constitute racism?
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Yes. But, if we are talking about what I think we are talking about:

If society contains pre-existing racial disparities, is it racism to socially correct for those disadvantages so that, collectively, all races share roughly equal opportunity?
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Equal opportunity in law is the fundamental right of a free people. Equal opportunity in social norms should be the goal of rational, compassionate people.

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Old 08-21-2005, 10:38 AM
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Yes. But, if we are talking about what I think we are talking about:

If society contains pre-existing racial disparities, is it racism to socially correct for those disadvantages so that, collectively, all races share roughly equal opportunity?
If society corrects racial disparities wherein everyone is advantaged equally with opportunity and human rights regardless of race, then no that is not racism.

If it is racism to disadvantage an individual based on his/her race, is it racism to create an advantage for one individual at the expense of another individual based on thier racial differences where said advantage is a limited opportunity?

Is it racism to create or allow for the human rights advantages of one individual to eclipse the human rights of another based on their racial components?

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