China's auto industry - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

ericnguyen · #1 11-08-2005, 08:21 PM

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2005/nf20050526_0195_db016.htm

MAY 26, 2005

NEWS ANALYSIS
By Brian Bremner and Kathleen Kerwin

Here Come Chinese Cars
China aims to be a big auto exporter, with help from big names manufacturing in the country. Detroit isn't looking in its rearview mirror -- yet
Audacious, gutsy, and maybe a little nutty -- how else to describe the push by New York auto entrepreneur Malcolm Bricklin and China's Chery Automobile Co. President Yin Tongyao to import and sell 250,000 mainland-made sport utilities, sedans, and sports coupes in the U.S. starting in 2007?

After all, Chery produced only 80,000 cars in all of 2004, has near-zero brand recognition outside China, and has been sued by General Motors' (GM ) South Korean unit for allegedly ripping off the design for its best-selling QQ minicars in China -- a charge Chery denies. And while Bricklin was expected to announce his first dealer on May 26, U.S. auto execs aren't exactly losing sleep over the Chery threat -- not yet, anyway (See BW Online, 5/26/05, Malcolm Bricklin's "Bit of P.T. Barnum")

EARLY DAYS. Big Three execs did take notice, however, when Honda (HMC ) announced plans to export compact cars from China to Europe starting in June. Honda already sells about 200,000 locally built vehicles in China a year, ranging from Accord sedans to Odyssey SUVs. In April, with local partners, it began production at a new assembly plant in Guangzhou that will eventually build and export 50,000 Fit compacts a year to be sold in Europe as the Jazz. Honda won't say if it plans to send China-built cars to the U.S., but it hasn't ruled out exporting other models from China eventually.

In the global auto industry, Chery and Honda are on opposite ends of the spectrum. But they do share this: Both are betting big that the Chinese auto industry is entering a new phase that will see a shift from manufacturing only for the fast-growing local market to become an export base for the rest of the world, too.

This transition is in the early stages. Of the 405,000 vehicles exported last year, according to J.D. Power & Associates, just 10,000 were passenger cars. Low quality and high component costs will keep Chinese auto exports to the U.S. and Europe in the novelty category for the next few years, analysts say.

RISING QUALITY. That's no reason for Western carmakers to be complacent, though. China is closing the quality gap and building a base of low-cost suppliers that could eventually allow it to unleash inexpensive, well-made cars on the West.

And because local production capacity of 3 million vehicles a year is currently outstripping demand by about half a million vehicles, there are already a lot of wheels looking for a garage. "It's inevitable," says Mark LaNeve, chief of sales and marketing at GM. "They'll follow the example of the Koreans and Japanese."

Korean cars gave Detroit fits in the late '90s by undercutting domestic small cars on price and outdoing them on quality -- then moving up into other segments. Autos from China could provide more lower-cost competition for the Big Three at a time when GM and Ford (F ) are already reeling. That could cost them, along with Chrysler, more market share and prod them to move more of their own production offshore.

GOVERNMENT PUSH. How fast can the Chinese gear up? The way things are going, it won't take 20 years to match Toyota (TM) quality levels, as it did for the Koreans. And with Chinese auto assembly workers earning $2 an hour -- vs. $22 in Korea and nearly $60 in the U.S. for wages and benefits -- it may not be long before China has the wherewithal to start selling competitively priced cars overseas. "The Chinese are probably five or six years away from being able to sell a competent low-end car," says auto analyst Maryann N. Keller.

The Chinese government is putting its heft behind the export push -- subsidizing the export drive of such local players as Chery and giving the likes of Honda big incentives. Beijing also is nudging foreign auto makers to divert investment into export production so local partners can become familiar with managing foreign-exchange risk and global supply chains. It's also pushing domestic companies such as Chery, Geely Auto, Brilliance China Automotive (CBA ), and Shanghai Automotive Industry to develop their own brands overseas.

For smaller players such as Chery and Geely, the crucial test will be delivering quality products. Chinese carmakers have made big strides, with a 19% boost in quality last year over 2003, says a recent study on initial quality by J.D. Power. Still, Chery's locally sold QQs have 374 problems per 100 vehicles, vs. the '04 U.S. average of 118 problems per 100.

PARTS PREDICAMENT. Quality isn't the only challenge facing Chinese carmakers. They also will have to meet U.S. safety and emissions standards -- an exhaustive process that includes expensive testing. Without a global partner experienced in meeting U.S. standards, the task will be especially tough.

Another challenge is a bit of a mind-bender: While China's labor costs are dirt cheap, the overall cost of bolting a car together there is anything but. Honda officials say the cost of making the Accord in China is still higher than in Japan or the U.S. And it costs about the same to build the Fit compact in China as it does in Japan. Honda makes money selling cars locally because prices are high.

Blame expensive parts for the high costs. Despite a major production shift to China by Western partsmakers, the nation remains a net importer of auto components, especially high-end gear such as engines and transmissions. Those parts face tariffs of up to 20%, plus shipping costs.

STARTER WHEELS. Parts made by Chinese partners or foreign transplants are pricey, too, because of local-content rules that result in generally low production runs. Bernd Leissner, president of Volkswagen Group China, notes that while labor accounts for only 6% of production costs, materials eat up 85%.

That will begin to change as higher volumes start bringing costs down. Jack Perkowski, CEO of ASMICO Technologies, which owns 13 parts factories in China, figures that will happen once the domestic market gets closer to 10 million units a year. Analysts see economies of scale kicking in by 2010. That's when China should be able to start beating Thailand, Japan, and the U.S. on cost.

The first cars to reach the U.S. from China will be starter wheels that won't pose a threat to Western auto makers. By early 2006, for example, Scottsdale (Ariz.)-based China Motor Corp. expects to begin selling Geely's bare-bones Solo sedan for about $7,000.

COUNTER-STRATEGIES. But Bricklin and Chery aim to begin with models that will compete with mainstream vehicles. Starting in 2007, they plan to roll out a four-door sedan, a crossover SUV, and a sports car. The SUV, which Bricklin grandly compares to the $31,000 BMW X3, will sell for $15,000. While analysts say Chery will face a marketing challenge, analyst Jim Hall of AutoPacific Inc. says its cars will generate interest "because of a price advantage, just as Hyundai did in the beginning."

But what Detroit really fears are exports from Chinese joint ventures with the likes of Volkswagen, Honda, or Toyota. They know how to build cars that meet U.S. safety and emissions requirements and Western quality expectations. Just as important, they have established dealer networks that could be used to sell China-built models with familiar brand names. The potential threat: ultra-low-priced Honda Civics or VW Passats.

For Detroit, that's a scary prospect. "Our strategy is to become competitive at the low end of the market," says GM's LaNeve. That means importing cars built by its Korean affiliate, Daewoo, to sell as Chevys, such as the $10,000 Aveo subcompact launched in fall, 2003.

ROARING INTO THE FUTURE. LaNeve wouldn't discuss GM's long-term plans. But analysts say that, under pressure from Chinese cars, the auto giant could step up exports from Korea, where quality and supplier connections are already established. Eventually, though, it might turn to its own plants in China, where it has been producing cars since 1999.

Latecomer Ford is still expanding its factory base in China just to meet local demand. Analysts note that Ford could one day choose to start bringing cars over from its plants in Thailand, which now supply the Asian market. Moving production offshore would be sure to anger the United Auto Workers, though. Indeed, when DaimlerChrysler (DCX ) said in April that it is considering exports of small cars from China to the U.S., the union squawked.

In the meantime, China's auto industry is roaring into the future -- building out its supplier networks and boosting quality. Sho Minekawa, president of joint venture Guangzhou Honda Automobile, says that when an assembly error in the braking system of its Fit model surfaced this spring, a team of Japanese and Chinese workers fixed the problem in a matter of weeks. What's more, Honda says in-house quality tests show that the China-made Accord is actually superior to the one made in the U.S.

If those quality gains hold and a far bigger market drives down costs, China could start throwing its heft around the global auto market in a big way. Look out, Detroit.

engatwork · #2 11-08-2005, 08:26 PM

Maybe they will get sued by DC for copying the W123 with air bags and anti lock brakes. Using the 617 engine of course with an "optional" alternative heated fuel tank

system.

Ara T. · #3 11-09-2005, 12:17 AM

Wwwwait, US auto assemblers get $60/hr? These are the guys on the assembly line doing one job the whole day like torqueing a bolt down?

#4 11-09-2005, 06:32 AM

I work in the automotive supply industry and a few months ago I spoke with a person who is a systems manager for a very large automotive supply corporation that has been in the news a lot lately. This person was responsible for seeing his end of things being ramped up in a plant in China. This person told me, "In China their idea of certifying an anti-lock brake system is to put an emblem on the fender that reads 'ABS'."

If this is their mentality how will their cars measure to US standard.....I am guessing just barely on the line. Malcolm needs dealers in the US. I would be afraid to be one for this reason. If the Cherry cars have problems that cause litigation I would imagine that it would be difficult to go after the manufacturer in China. And if that would be the case I would imagine that the next person on the litigation 'food chain' would be the dealer(s).

I do not know how Cherry cars do in crash tests, but initial feeling is that my bicycle is safer than their cars and my W123 300D would rip through a Cherry car like it was make of wet toilet paper.

This is just my cynical automotive perception.

boneheaddoctor · #5 11-09-2005, 08:06 AM

Lets see if they do a better job than the Yugo..............

glenmore · #6 11-09-2005, 10:49 AM

Chinese cars not quite ready for prime time:

http://www.redstaterant.com/archives/1203-Wary-of-the-Chinese-Auto-Industry.html

"The first Chinese car to be sold in Europe has scored zero — the worst-ever score — in safety tests. "

Click on the first video clip of the crash test. Gruesome.

glenmore

boneheaddoctor · #7 11-09-2005, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenmore

Chinese cars not quite ready for prime time:

http://www.redstaterant.com/archives/1203-Wary-of-the-Chinese-Auto-Industry.html

"The first Chinese car to be sold in Europe has scored zero — the worst-ever score — in safety tests. "

Click on the first video clip of the crash test. Gruesome.

glenmore

They see automobiles as an offshoot of their population control efforts....

crash9 · #8 11-09-2005, 11:39 AM

Changfa single cyl. diesel powered truck - Homemade, but pretty common.

In both India and China motors and many products are made in many different factories, or actually put together as kits in backyard shops. The quality can be all over the board, but they're getting better. Funny now, but they're on the move. The ramp up is happening very fast. So fast that I'm told in just three months cities are almost unrecognizable from one visit to the next. The cities are modern state of the art, while in the country it's still very backward. The best way I've heard it put is that they are building a Houston Texas every thirty days.

diametricalbenz · #9 11-09-2005, 11:57 AM

I was in southern China about 10 years ago and those blue Changfa powered tractors were everywhere pulling livestock, wood, tile, trailers of people. We probably looked like millionaires riding in a Nissan "Urvan" and a Volvo 740 with the driver honking at pretty much everything... in fact he drove with his right hand ON the horn.

Things are getting better but it's fueled by desire for things like Ferraris and Bentleys which are being bought as fast as possible. My parents saw two when vacationing near the Great Wall which were posed for some photoshoot of sorts....maybe it was a Bentley GTG with pink box Dim Sum food arrangements

Everything that isn't purchased is reverse engineered and as sad as that is I think it's just a matter of time before they get better. That Rodeo clone is appalling I might add....the dummy's head goes forward into the airbag which then has the dashboard fly AT the driver and then the seatback comes undone and then slams the head again.....WOW....that's a car DESIGNED to kill people.