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Carleton Hughes · #1 11-26-2005, 10:12 PM

Believers Flock to 'Crying' Virgin Mary

By JULIET WILLIAMS, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Carrying rosary beads and cameras, the faithful have been coming in a steady stream to a church on the outskirts of Sacramento for a glimpse of what some are calling a miracle: A statue of the Virgin Mary they say has begun crying a substance that looks like blood.
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It was first noticed more than a week ago, when a priest at the Vietnamese Catholic Martyrs Church spotted a stain on the statue's face and wiped it away. Before Mass on Nov. 20, people again noticed a reddish substance near the eyes of the white concrete statue outside the small church, said Ky Truong, 56, a parishioner.

Since then, Truong said he has been at the church day and night, so emotional he can't even work. He believes the tears are a sign.

"There's a big event in the future — earthquake, flood, a disease," Truong said. "We're very sad."

On Saturday, tables in front of the fenced-in statue were jammed with potted plants, bouquets of roses and candles. Some people prayed silently, while others sang hymns and hugged their children. An elderly woman in a wheelchair wept near the front of the crowd.

A red trail could be seen from the side of the statue's left eye to about halfway down the robe of concrete.

"I think that it's incredible. It's a miracle. Why is she doing it? Is it something bothering her?" asked Maria Vasquez, 35, who drove with her parents and three children from Stockton, about 50 miles south of Sacramento.

Thousands of such incidents are reported around the world each year, though many turn out to be hoaxes or natural phenomena.

The Diocese of Sacramento has so far not commented on the statue, and the two priests affiliated with the church did not return a telephone message Saturday.

The Rev. James Murphy, deacon of the diocese's mother church, the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, said church leaders are always skeptical at first.

"For people individually seeing things through the eyes of faith, something like this can be meaningful. As for whether it is supernatural or a miracle, normally these incidences are not. Miracles are possible, of course," Murphy said. "The bishop is just waiting and seeing what happens. They will be moving very slowly."

But seeing the statue in person left no doubt for Martin Operario, 60, who drove about 100 miles from Hayward. He took photos to show to family and friends.

"I don't know how to express what I'm feeling," Operario said. "Since religion is the mother of believing, then I believe."

Nuns Anna Bui and Rosa Hoang, members of the Salesian Sisters of San Francisco, also made the trek Saturday. Whether the weeping statue is declared a miracle or not, they said, it is already doing good by awakening people to the faith and reminding them to pray.

"It's a call for us to change ourselves, to love one another," Hoang said.

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Red stains are seen running from the left eye of a statue of the Virgin Mary at the Vietnamese Catholic Martyrs Church in Sacramento, Calif., Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2005. According to Anthony Nguyen, a deacon at the Church, the stains first appeared more than a week ago, but they were wiped away. The stains reappeared a week later. Visitors have been flocking to the church to see what many call 'a miracle.'(AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

Botnst · #2 11-26-2005, 11:11 PM

Scientist I work with noticed one thing that consistently survived Hurricane Rita in SW Louisiana: bathtub Virgins. You know, Mary (Mother of God) effigies in a semi-protective shelter that looks like a half-bathtub buried in the ground. They're not uncommon in Roman Catholic dominated areas.

His suggestion for rebuilding is to have new building codes requiring new construction be Virgin Effigies.

I'm down wit dat.

B

boneheaddoctor · #3 11-28-2005, 10:13 AM

I'm not catholic so I don't get this Madona frenzy thing they have....

sfloriII · #4 11-28-2005, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes

Thousands of such incidents are reported around the world each year, though many turn out to be hoaxes or natural phenomena.

The Rev. James Murphy, deacon of the diocese's mother church, the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament, said church leaders are always skeptical at first.

"For people individually seeing things through the eyes of faith, something like this can be meaningful. As for whether it is supernatural or a miracle, normally these incidences are not. Miracles are possible, of course," Murphy said. "The bishop is just waiting and seeing what happens. They will be moving very slowly."

Sounds like the Church is handling this fine to me. Sure, some people get fooled by things like this, but that's their problem. And if it does nothing more than cause people to become more faithful, is there really any harm in that? There was a lot of skeptisizm about some of the occurrences at Fatima, in Portugal, but some things there still haven't been explained away. Same thing for Guatalupe, Mexico, as well as many other places.

If you don't believe in miracles, you'll never accept stuff like this. But it makes sense to me.

BTW, I visited Fatima in '83.

Tirebiter · #5 11-28-2005, 01:10 PM

Because we are getting sooo screwed on fuel prices

TheDon · #6 11-28-2005, 03:27 PM

we're all going to die ahhhhhh