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11-30-2005, 08:24 PM
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The Americam Community Survey
Came in today's mail; was politely warned by the US Department of Commerce about a week ago (again by mail) to expect it. Looks like a mid-decade census with 21 pages of questions. The delivering envelope says:"YOUR RESPONSE IS REQUIRED BY LAW". Inital response is to toss it out since I don't really care to give info or my time to any solicitors, including the federal government.
regards, Mark 
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11-30-2005, 08:28 PM
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Proud owner of .... 1971 280SE W108 1979 300SD W116 1983 300D W123 1975 Ironhead Sportster chopper 1987 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4 Diesel 1989 Honda Civic (Heavily modified) --------------------- Section 609 MVAC Certified --------------------- "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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11-30-2005, 09:23 PM
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id call your local tax agent or who ever you think deals with that crap.. the secret service maybe?
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11-30-2005, 09:54 PM
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It's just a census survey
Chosen at random it's legit if it came from the census dept of commerce. It in theory is IS required by law that you provide answers. As a farm owner, I get these all the time from the Dept of Agriculture. They will dog you forever if you don't send it back, letters, telephones, visit in person, etc
It's a relatively benign collection of data for statistical purposes. No one that I'm aware of is individually identified. The governments big brother features are far more overrated than fellow paranoid travelers would have us believe. As a many decade systems analyst, IT person, they are just not that competent. Whatever God you believe in help us if they ever do get that competent (we'll need all the help we can get). Rev. Dr. G. Church of the Sub-Genius It doesn't take a genius
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11-30-2005, 11:39 PM
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 The farm census idiots called me once and asked me how much my wheat income was and I told them to go to the IRS to find out.
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1983 300-D turbo 1985 300-D turbo 1959 Harley Panhead chopper 1929 Ford coupe restored I hang out with Boneheaddoctor at Schuman Automotive OBK#5 All liberals are mattoids but not all mattoids are liberal.
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11-30-2005, 11:52 PM
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I receive ocassional queries about rental properties,income,how many people live in a certain dwelling etc.
I just take a sharpie and give the most moronic,hare-brained replies generally unrelated to the questions,not a difficult task as those who know me will avow
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12-01-2005, 12:24 AM
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Why are people so against the census? Is it because they feel like big brother is looking too much over their shoulder? I was about 12 when the last one was taken and even I remember what a negative reaction I heard from those around me. Maybe I just don't get it.
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Seth 1984 300D 225K 1985 300D Donor body 1985 300D Turbo 165K. Totaled. Donor Engine. It runs!!! 1980 300SD 311K My New Baby. 1979 BMW 633csi 62K+++? Dead odo
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12-01-2005, 12:29 AM
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When you are older you will understand what intrusiveness is all about,as well as the grasping,acquisitive nature of the government.
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12-01-2005, 12:31 AM
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Ah yes, thank you.
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Seth 1984 300D 225K 1985 300D Donor body 1985 300D Turbo 165K. Totaled. Donor Engine. It runs!!! 1980 300SD 311K My New Baby. 1979 BMW 633csi 62K+++? Dead odo
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12-01-2005, 09:00 AM
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Just as an example of where you could go if your heart was sinister and mind, devious. Another way to look at is is that these data are used by Congress and the Executive to craft legislation. To make good laws (it actually does happen), they need high quality data. It is a civic duty, like jury duty. Your choice. Bot
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12-01-2005, 09:18 AM
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I look at it another way: The US constitution provides the authority for them to count noses for the purpose of dividing up representatives. Four noses in my house. That's all they get. They want the authority to get any more information, they know the procedure to amend the rule book.
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12-01-2005, 12:31 PM
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...the survey is not voluntary. Answering the questions is not a polite request from the Census Bureau. You are legally obligated to answer. If you refuse, the fines are staggering. For every question not answered, there is a $100 fine. And for every intentionally false response to a question, the fine is $500. Therefore, if a person representing a two-person household refused to fill out any questions or simply answered nonsensically, the total fines could range from upwards of $10,000 and $50,000 for noncompliance.
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12-01-2005, 12:34 PM
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note: I'm married to a govt employee and my Father and stepmother were govt. employees.
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Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
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