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Any builders here - what's it cost to drive piles?
Was wondering if anybody here knows what it costs to drive piles. Looking at some land with water on both ends. I've been told I would need to go 40 to 50 feet down. The footprint of the house would be about 40' x 50'.
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Your question is a lot like asking, 'How much does a fish cost?"
What kind ( Bass, Trout , or something exotic) Fresh, or live Salt water or fresh rare or common. Not trying to sound sarcastic, but to get a price you need to provide more info. Are the piles to be wood, steel, concrete? What kind of access is available? Can a barge-mounted rig get to all areas, or can atruck-mounted rig get to all areas, or will it require a combination? Have you had any subsurface work performed? How do you know that you expect to drive them 40-50'? Is that a SWAG, or local average, or based on some knowledge. ( SWAG= Scientific, Wild-Assed Guess) |
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I was told a house two lots south needed 40 to 50' metal pilings. A home two doors north did not. The home two doors north is on the original island. The island was connected to land with fill. The lot I am looking at is somewhere along the edge of the original island. The lot I am looking at has a substantial boat dock on one side of the street, looks like it has been there for maybe 5 years, and I see no settling of the concrete, sidewalks, and the Gazebo that was put there. Maybe the ground will test stable, but I will make sure before I buy. The pilings would be metal. Access is by paved road.
I have not made an offer on the property, and am looking for a SWAG. Ballpark. Like - $10,000, $25,000, $50,000, $75,000, or $100,000. Before I make an offer, I will perform DD and pay an engineering firm to test ground conditions. Don't want to spend good money on DD without a basic idea of what the pilings will cost. I never built a home needing pilings before.
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I'm sorry. I thought you meant car builders, and how much does it cost to drive piles of crap.
The answer is, it's usually quite profitable if you know when to sell. Ask me about my $300 Audi Coupe GT which I sold for $875 after four months of use:0 I couldn't resist. Sounds like a pretty interesting house though... |
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This guy Jim Winslow developed a helical 'pile' for framing a foundation in unstable ground.
My brother's house is set on these with a steel frame 'foundation'. In the long run it was cheaper than grading and pouring a regular concrete foundation. Takes less time also. No grading needed. etc. do a net search on his name. The co. has a web site. His co. is called PACIFIC HOUSING SYSTEMS I am sure he can inform you. good luck.
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There are so many variables, why not call a piling contractor in your area and ask him? Local contractor would be most familiar with local conditions and requirements. Or you could see if your local library has a copy of R.S. Means guide to estimating construction costs. This book lists all facets of construction, and the unit cost. There is also a conversion for local cost variances.
When you do the prepurchsae investigation, your Engineer should investigate pile alternatives. A large job I am associated with used auger-cast piles. This is where they drill a relatively large diameter hole to a specific depth and fill it with concrete. Meteal piles may be hollow tubes which are later filled with conrete, or "H" piles which are basically just "H" beams driven on their end. In any event it is a highly specialised trade. I'd make some phone calls and get a local estimate, if it were me. |
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Here's what I found out. The neighbor's house's pilings cost him about $75,000 for 49 piles, 53 feet long, 8" od, 0.332 wall, with top welded on, footings, foundation, and engineering. Just the pilings was $45,000. Can this be right? This just seems too high. Please comment on fairnes of this price.
I am working with another type of contractor that does something like the helical pilings mentioned. This same contractor is working on a house down the street that was built without pilings, and is "settling". So now they have to do it from the basement of the house! Ouch, is that going to hurt or what?
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Don't confuse the helical 'piling' used to lift sagging foundations with the type that Pacific Housing Systems employs. The are two different systems and applications !! The former is used after the fact to repair problems. The latter is used specifically for constructing a building's foundation. BIG difference.
You ought to contact PHS and find out who in your area is authorized to work with this system. Get a quote. Or email PHS and give them as much info as possible for a 'ball park ' figure. You can also contact a grading contractor and get a quote for grading and laying cement foundation. The helical system ought to be a bit less expensive.
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I found their website and sent the information form in describing what I know. The contractor I spoke with today seems to have a similar system as what's described on the web page. I'll be speaking with him again tomorrow and ask if he's a PHS contractor.
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I don't think the 45k figure to drive 49 steel pilings 53 feet into the ground sounds unreasonable at all. Have you priced steel lately? I'm betting just the materials for that kind of job would be 15-20k.
My house is built on standard treated class B wood pilings. I have 26 pilings and they are imbedded to a depth of 15-20 feet. As I recall it cost about 11K for materials and labor. |
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Driving Piles
I realize the initial post is several years old, however, it seems that this is a frequent question when it comes to how much does it cost to drive piles. While I can't speak for the entire country I can speak for the area of SW Florida. There aren't many companies that provide this service and as such those companies love to inflate their prices. They also don't like to provide information as to what it will cost the consumer and I can only think that's because they want the consumer to be so financially deep in their project that it's too late to back out and the consumer will either have to walk away from a considerable amount of money they already spent (cost of land, geotech survey, architect, engineer) - or - choke it up and spend way more than they were prepared to spend. IF you have had a Geotechnical Survey conducted AND the report recommends driving piles this is what you can expect from the few companies here in SW Florida. And the prices are as of this posting.
Mobilization to your job site: $5000.00 Drive 10" X 10" concrete piles: $20.00 per linear foot If they have to "pre-drill" a spot in order to drive the pile: $100.00 each If they have to "punch below grade": $30.00 each. Saw cut the test piles: $55.00 each. Upon contract acceptance they will want 50% down which tells you that their mark up is 100%. Additional cost: Daily monitoring to ensure the piles are driven to the engineered specs and that the ground vibrations to adjoining lots are within "certain" guidelines: $500.0 per day. Also, each exact spot that a pile is to be driven must be marked. Survey will set you back $200.00 PLUS $25.00 per spot. Keep in mind that ALL of these trades know each other - VERY WELL. This is truly a "I'll wash your back if you wash mine" business. Hopefully this helps everyone who has the question: How much does it cost to drive piles? |
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I have no personal experience with piles.
I do suspect though that as Tim mentioned they can be pretty reasonable. Wood piles seem a little dodgy but that is what Venice sits on and they've been there for 500 years or so.
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I believe I'd look for someplace else to build a house.
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Says the man who lives in a desert! (near desert?)
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I'll need pilings for my new home. Great info here.
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