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Electoral College vs. Popular vote
I'm not a fan of the Electoral college. After all, why shouldn't the canidate with the most votes win? That's the way every other election in this country works. As far as I'm concerned, Al Gore should of have been President, he really did win, kinda.
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IIRC, the electorial kollege was because we had communication issues over a large country. Perhaps it;s days should be ended and popular vote be instituted.
Not according to the way the Supreme Court decided, Al Gore didn't.
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The electoral college is a result of the fact we're a republic, not a direct democracy. It allows less-populated states to have a reasonable say in federal matters, and prevents California, Florida, and New York from singlehandedly controlling presidential elections.
Also, imagine a countrywide recount the next time we have a sore election loser. You thought the Florida recount was a trainwreck? Best we keep things granular and isolate irregularities to single states. I'm sure some constitutional scholars here can do better than my measly answer. |
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They want the vote but it would take a constitutional amendment. The Democrats have been pushing for that for decades and the Republicans have been blocking it for decades. For the obvious reasons. I believe one of the Federalist Papers presented the argument as to why the national capital should not have representation in Congress and a presidential vote. I think the argument is that the laws and taxes and what have you in DC are set by Congress or some such. Anyway, Congress actually runs DC they just let the mayor play with it. |
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I don't like the electoral college either because I belive the candidate with the most votes should win, period. NY, FL and CA wouldn't control the elections even without the electoral college because they hardly constitute a quarter of the US population. I think the electoral college was originally formed to prevent the general population from electing an idiot to the president's office....
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As PC Dave mentioned, the electoral college vote is computed as a vote for each senator and congressman. Since the Congressmen are allocated directly by population, that portion of the vote is directly proportionate to the population.
Why have 2 senators per state? What's that about? Why not have senators in proportion to population too? Wouldn't that be more reasonable than having 2 from WY and 2 from CA? Why should CA and WY have equal numbers of senators? The answer to that will also answer the question of the Electoral College. B |
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The EC is profoundly anti-democratic
The EC disenfranchises large segments of the population who happen to differ in opinion from the electoral majority of their given state. I believe it's largely responsible for depressing the voter turnout in our one chance at a national referendum. Why would anyone with red or independent/minor party leanings bother to vote in a predominantly blue state, and vice versa? Their votes aren't tallied in a meaningful manner, and hence aren't useful to anyone. It's an archaic institution that's long outlived it utility.
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But what about senators? Why does each state get two? B |
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Yeah you're right. We don't need no stinking president, either. Just log on to the computer every day and vote for hwo to run things. Folks could start initiatives and create voting blocks to change rules whenever they get enough voters to get a majority vote. That would be interesting. I suggest folks who like pure democracy could learn a lot from the reading about Athens during the Peloponnesian Wars. |
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