Limbaugh--Viagra
 

Bot mentioned it on another thread. Looks like the prosecutor is going to blow it off. Anywhere else in the country it is prescription fraud for the doc and Rushbo. I am perplexed that TSA busted him on something like this. I personally don't want to see him fry for that (and I can't stand the jerk), but one would think that the prosecutor would have at least charged him, slapped him on the wrist and not taken away his other deal. I think that acting like it is no big deal is a dangerous message.

I asked a doctor about this and he said that it is fairly common practice to prescribe medications like rushbo's case. When you are given an office samle do you have the script in hand?

This guy has got to be the mother or all morons to enter the U.S. with a fraudulent prescription while he's on probation. Wow.....

This episode may actually come in handy some day if Rush ever needs an insanity defense...

Keeps him standing up for America.

Yeah well you know my deal with doctors so I'm not being a total hypocrite, but it is prescription fraud. Any doctor that does that is guilty and the ones I know and am related to would never do it. The whole reason for scrips is to keep track of who takes what. Seems pretty silly thing to do a cover-up on given the circumstances. A-scrips are confidential and privileged, B-who cares who is taking Viagra? It has become pretty common.

Ten-Hut!
 

Boy that guy really does take the old saying, "Better living through chemistry," to heart doesn't he?

I'm fairly conservative politically, but I find people like Limbaugh to be an embarassment and just plain obnoxious. Never mind the hypocracy. What a blow hard.

At least Howard Stern can laugh at himself. Limbaugh seems to have no sense of humor about anything. He needs to lighten up a little. Maybe all of this constant attention for embarassing episodes involving drugs will bring him down a notch or two.

Sorry John but it boils down to administered or under the direction of a licensed physician Viagra is Schedule 4 so the requirements for scripts are a whole new ball game.

Again do you have a written script in hand when you are given a sample at the doctors office? The answer is no because doctors office samples are Schedule 4 and do not have the labeling requirements that Sched III drugs do. Legally the doctor could have the bottle labeled John Doe as long as the patients personal file in the Doc's office can validate the information.

Your wrong and owe me a beer, I'll collect this weekend ;)

But what was he doing with a pocket full of Viagra in the Dominican Republic, noted for their healthy sex trade. Enquiring minds want to know.

I used to listen to him sometimes, and at times agreed with some of what he said, but he is is also a pompous gasbag, and who constantly heaped scorn on Bill Clinton, so I don't feel sorry for him, now, but I hope he isn't being singled out for persecution either

Jim

I will send you the statute. It isn't a felony like sch. 1 & 2, but it is not legal here. It could also be filed under false pretense here. Also, the prosecutor in FL already said it was a crime, but that he wasn't going to pursue charges. I'll have a Maker's & water, thank you very much. ;)

The sample thing isn't really involved in this issue, is it?

the real issue
 

It seems like the issue here is that when you set yourself up as the voice of morality on a national radio program, it's best not to get cought ike this with your pants around your ankles.

Ah-ha!

Yes it is because it is the same concept the person is walking around with prescription drugs without a prescription in hand. There is a pretty good article about this (Limbaugh) that sheds light on this fact.

That will be a Sam Adams Light

Thanks

It has nothing to do with it--the Dr. issued the prescription to himself to protect rush from publicity (ostensibly). That is fraud and probably false pretense. He didn't just possess a bunch of samples.

Mike Edmondson, a spokesman for the state attorney in Palm Beach County, said it's often legal under Florida law for a doc to prescribe medication in a third party's name, if all parties are aware and the medic documents it correctly. The sheriff's office is continuing its investigation.

Kendall Coffey, a former U.S. attorney in the Sunshine State, told the AP that this latest case may be dismissed if lawmen can confirm with Limbaugh's doctor that the Viagra was indeed prescribed for the celebrity. Coffey said, "It's perhaps a little embarrassing, but not highly incriminating." Blasted media.

Make that a six pack.

Let's not forget the probation part -- this idiot risked some real prison time. What a nimrod...

true but if his doctor told him that it was legal and his attorney confirmed that he proceeded upward to Yaonder.

No hard evidence in Rush Viagra incident
By Associated Press
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - Updated: 12:07 AM EST

Florida investigators were trying to determine yesterday whether right-wing radio gabber Rush Limbaugh, busted with a bottle of Viagra in his bag, violated a deal with prosecutors in his prescription fraud case.
Limbaugh, 55, was detained for more than three hours Monday at Palm Beach International Airport after he returned on his private plane from a vacation in the Dominican Republic. Customs officials found Viagra in his bag, but his name wasn’t on the prescription.


Limbaugh’s lawyer Roy Black said that the prescription was written in Limbaugh’s doctor’s name “for privacy purposes.” The conservative radio host was released without being charged and investigators confiscated the Viagra, which treats erectile dysfunction.
Limbaugh joked about the search on his radio show yesterday, saying Customs officials didn’t believe him when he said he got the pills at the Clinton Library.
“I had a great time in the Dominican Republic,” he chuckled. “Wish I could tell you about it.”
It is generally not illegal under Florida law for a physician to prescribe medication in a third party’s name if all parties are aware and the doctor documents it correctly. If Limbaugh’s doctor doesn’t confirm the prescription, the alleged violation could be a second-degree misdemeanor.
Under last month’s deal with prosecutors, authorities will dismiss a “doctor shopping” charge if Limbaugh doesn’t get arrested for 18 months, among other terms.
Prosecutors had said the talk-show host illegally deceived multiple doctors to get overlapping painkiller prescriptions. Limbaugh denied the charges but admitted he was addicted to painkillers.

Why are they continuing the investigation? The prosecutor held a press conference--I heard what he said.

The doctor is the one being investigated now, not Limbaugh. There is not a real hard case in any direction I am sure this case will go limp in 36 hours.

It should go flaccid, and I hope it does, but why should he get a buy for

The story I heard is that the doc gave him the bottle that he had prescribed to himself to avoid the hassle and embarrassment of it being found out that Limbaugh was using Viagra. That worked out pretty well, didn't it? :wacko:

[QUOTE=MedMech]Sorry John but it boils down to administered or under the direction of a licensed physician Viagra is Schedule 4 so the requirements for scripts are a whole new ball game.

Again do you have a written script in hand when you are given a sample at the doctors office? The answer is no because doctors office samples are Schedule 4 and do not have the labeling requirements that Sched III drugs do.

Med- Does anyone know where this stands with HIPPA regulations? Samples are not to be given out in doctors offices anymore at least in a hospital setting. Just curious.

Siduri: I thought that HIPPA only concerned itself with the confidentiality of a patient's medical records.

Doctors (in private practice, not so sure about hospitals) get tons of "free" samples from the drug manufacturers. The manufacturers hope that the doctors will give the free samples to their patients and, eventually, prescribe them on a regular basis.

Pfizer advertises free Viagra samples.

I think that the whole think is unethical...how drug companies wine and dance doctors and give them all kinds of freebies to get them to prescribe tehir products...if not unethical, then it stinks.

I just think that it is hilarious that Rush got caught.

He is such a blowhard that a lot of conservatives, myself included, can't stand him.

So you are saying that there is no hard evidence and the whole thing is just going to peter out?

[QUOTE=Siduri19]I am not sure of the HIPAA requirement, HIPAA has far reach and but it is abused an rarely enforced. Doctors office closets have never had more samples in them. It is becoming the norm for doc's to give un-under-insured patients samples in lieu of a script.

[QUOTE=MedMech]
Not where i work, we'd be busted as fast as a New York minute if we gave out samples. Thanks.

I wonder if HIPPA applies since the medication wasn't in his name. I don't know much on the ins and outs of HIPPA, but privacy concerns seem the interesting part of this situation - regardless of whether it's Rush Limbaugh or not.

Hard tellin not knowing.....

Yep. I know the HIPPA stuff has really cracked down on inforamation that used to be available in my world. Folks who violate the new restrictions (and are caught doing so) are not treated kindly.

[QUOTE=peragro]Yep. I know the HIPPA stuff has really cracked down on inforamation that used to be available in my world. Folks who violate the new restrictions (and are caught doing so) are not treated kindly.[/QUOTE

They are raking in the violation fees.

Come you guys, admit it.... you have all listened to Rush at one time or the other. It's like watching two dogs go at it, it's repulsive, but somehow you can't look away.

[QUOTE=Siduri19]
So what do you do with the samples?

I don't know. After the Hippa snafu I never bothered asking i just know the supply closet didn't have drug samples in it anymore. don't ask don't tell. Lucy you got some splainin to do. have a good weekend.

Then you were in the only doctors office in the country without physcians samples.

and it is HIPAA BTW:rolleyes:

You have no idea what you are talking about, you must be working a mop bucket.

I listened for a while but I've been looking away for a lonnnnng time now. The guy is capable of seeing things only through the prism of his navel.

And now we learn that he sees the world while a tourist through the tip of his **** (cyclops buddy).

HIPAA is related to patients' medical records and some other confidentiality matters. I am HIPAA certified, btw.

Yes, doctors are able to give out samples. The physicians I know give them to people who can not afford the medications. I have never heard anything about hospitals not being able to hand out samples, but I have also never heard of hospitals giving them out either.

Thanks
David