Hoo-kay. Best I can gather, people in various nations, not every last one of them I would guess, have been animated by these events. People in Europe, people in the U.S., people in the near, middle, and far east, and Australia.

Concerning comparison between Bush and Hitler, man that is just plain ludicous.

If Hitler is to Jews and Bush is to Muslims, then why did Bush go barefooting into a mosque within days of 9/11 as a demonstration of official tolerance of Islam in America? How many Jews flew zeppelins into german office buildings? Etc.

Show me where I said or implied that all Muslims are Jihadists.


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The exception that proves the rule. Besides, it was cheaper for them to let us do it. Saved their ordinance for later.

That's some kind of beneficial outpost we've got there. It's just a matter of time before democracy flowers in the region from that one little seed.

Or that Isreal deliberately killed children because unless you have some proof that they specifically targeted the kids, you have speculation. So a bunch of kids get killed. Why are we making such a fuss. More people have been killed by Isreal and Hezbollah and Hamaas than these few kids. What of it? The kids lives are now worth 2 others or what? Some kids get killed and this is such a bad thing? Oh, 300 adults got killed, well guess it sucks to be them?

What does, "Exception that proves the rule" mean, exactly? That's a phrase I've never understood.

Cheaper in what sense? With these people, restraint is seen as weakness. So yes, it was cheaper in ordanance sense but could cost more in the long run.

You really believe we care about democracy there? We are in it for the very same reason we do many other things. Because it benifits us. A regime friendly to us in a wilderness is an asset. HUMINT is a good thing that we can get from them. Also they have better interrogation techniques that we will have the stones to have.

as Quoted by Un on the Weekend in a speech aimed at Rice..."there is something fundamentally wrong in a war where the number of Children killed exceeds that of the deaths of armed combatents...."perhaps the Murdoch press didn't publish that in your safe little part of the world.
Being Jewish myself I rather think I can speak witrh some authority on this.
Hitler did recruit your kind though,until Pearl Harbour the USA was anti Jew,the American Bundists ,which included Preston Bush as one of it's financiers,refused to assist Great Britain in the war effort and actually forced my great grandfathers ship to sail away from the USA in 1938 when they sought safe haven in the USA.leading to the United Nations declaration of Human rights in 1948...No person seeking refuge will be turned away...
Until This year,Great Britain has been on it's financial knees because the USA presented it with bill( lend Lease...remember??) ..a bill which took from 1945 to 2006 to repay at the cost of great social harm to the english people.
Something else that Murdoch conveniently keeps hidden from the kind folks in the US?
But the USA spent a lot of that money supporting the Israelis attempts at land theft ,by selling them arms.
There will be no peace in the mideast until the USA stops supporting the killing of Children.
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You forgot the Kenendy patriarch. he was so virulently anti-English that the Engish suspected him of spying for the Germans and asked Roosevelt to recall him. The USA has a large population of folks of german descent. Up until the early 1800's legal documents in parts of Pennsylvania were in German. Germans continued to emigrate to the USA in large numbers up until WWI.

Most of the Americans of German ancestry were pro-german, not pro-Nazi. In a political argument, they were very effective. When Germany declared war on the USA, German Americans joined the armed forces just like Russian-Americans, etc, etc, etc.

It is a hugely diverse society over here. If anybody says, "You Americans do XXX" chances are they are right. Some Americans will do XXX. Self-castration, drink cyanide, and put a silk hanky over their heads waiting for the starship. WTF, there's something for everybody over here.

Uh... Murdoch, now an American, doesn't own the media over here, but he is a successful playuh. There are lots of media outlets. Ever read "The Nation?" I'll bet you'd like it. It's online, too.

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Numbers...I need more numbers....:D

You forgot Henry Ford...he was a confirmed anti-Semite as was probably Charles Lindbergh...and as long as you want to throw "my people" into the mix...I was born in Cuba and Cuban officials denied entry to a ship full of Eastern European Jewish refugees.

I place the blame for the death of those children entirely on the hezbo-thugs. They are the ones who placed (and continue to place) military targets amongst children and women. What is Israel supposed to do? Not defend itself?

Being a Jew does not buy you an automatic pass card. Before the outbreak of WWII there were many Jews who were also Nazi collaborators. Many middle-class Cubans supported Kastro...before he turned on them too.

Sounds like a very noble idea on the surface....

HOWEVER....

Perhaps someone should have told the Palestinians to "vote for peace" BEFORE they elected Hamas to lead their "government" (if it can even be called that)....

Perhaps someone should have told the Lebanese to "vote for peace" before they made Hezbolla a legitimate political party in their government.

Look at what has been going on for DECADES in the Middle East and elsewhere... countless daily atrocities against completely innocent people, committed by thousands of radical Islamic terrorists, with hatred for (and suggestions of violence against) non-Muslims actually being taught to young Muslim children in school!!!... It is published in their textbooks, and commonly preached and condoned publicly by clerics and leaders.

Yet you dare call someone in OUR government a "war monger" with a straight face?....

A laughable concept, at best.

Mike

Yep, America, land of the free, where every perversion and every fetish has a home...

The series, Family Guy has a hilarious send-off on the Heaven's Gate people. The poster with the Stewie avatar would probably know which episode I am referring to....

Another completely ludicrous statement.

People in the Middle East have been killing each other for a LONG time... In fact, for CENTURIES before the United States even EXISTED.

So you can go ahead and drop the "it's all the US's fault" bull$hit... Not going to work around here.

Let's lay the blame where it REALLY belongs. Those unfortunate Lebanese people in that building would still be breathing if HEZBOLLA had not started capturing Israeli soldiers and lobbing rockets at civilians across the border in Israel.

Lebanon has allowed Hezbolla to operate freely in their country for a LONG time, and have even allowed them to become a legitimate political party in their government, now they are paying the price. They chose their friends poorly.

Mike

They just want to capitalize the part of children because it pulls on the heartstrings and not because they are really concerned about it. If Hezbollah were really concerned about the kids and all that, they should have evacuated them when the shelling was about to start. They just used them as human shields and properganda for people stupid enough to listen to the "Oh the children" cry.

Yep.

Mike