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San Francisco neuropsychiatrist says differences between women's and men's brains are very real, and the sooner we all understand it, the better
Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, August 6, 2006

Louann Brizendine's feminist ideals were forged in the 1970s, so the UCSF neuropsychiatrist is aware that some parts of her new book, "The Female Brain," sound politically incorrect.

Such as the part about how a financially independent woman may talk about finding a soul mate, but when she meets a prospective mate her brain is subconsciously sizing up his portfolio. Or the part describing the withdrawal pains moms feel when they return to work and can no longer cop a hormonal high from breast-feeding their babies.

Women have come a long way toward equality over the past 50 years, but the Yale-trained Brizendine, 53, says her research indicates that human brains are still wired for Stone Age necessities.

Male and female brains are different in architecture and chemical composition, asserts Brizendine. The sooner women -- and those who love them -- accept and appreciate how those neurological differences shape female behavior, the better we can all get along.

Start with why women prefer to talk about their feelings, while men prefer to meditate on sex.

"Women have an eight-lane superhighway for processing emotion, while men have a small country road," she writes. Men, however, "have O'Hare Airport as a hub for processing thoughts about sex, where women have the airfield nearby that lands small and private planes."

Untangling the brain's biological instincts from the influences of everyday life has been the driving passion of Brizendine's life -- and forms the core of her book. "The Female Brain" weaves together more than 1,000 scientific studies from the fields of genetics, molecular neuroscience, fetal and pediatric endocrinology, and neurohormonal development. It is also significantly based on her own clinical work at the Women's and Teen Girls' Mood and Hormone Clinic, which she founded at UCSF 12 years ago. It is the only psychiatric facility in the country with such a comprehensive focus.

A man's brain may be bigger overall, she writes, but the main hub for emotion and memory formation is larger in a woman's brain, as is the wiring for language and "observing emotion in others." Also, a woman's "neurological reality" is much more deeply affected by hormonal surges that fluctuate throughout her life.

Brizendine uses those differences to explain everything from why teenage girls feverishly swap text messages during class, to why women fake orgasms to why menopausal women leave their husbands.

So the next time parents scold their daughters for excessive text messaging, consider Brizendine's neurological explanation:

"Connecting through talking activates the pleasure centers in a girl's brain. We're not talking about a small amount of pleasure. This is huge. It's a major dopamine and oxytocin rush, which is the biggest, fattest neurological reward you can get outside of an orgasm."

Part road map for women looking for scientific explanations for their behavior, part geeky manual for relationship woes, "The Female Brain" already has become fodder for the morning chat shows. On the "Today" show this week, one critic downplayed the book's explanation of gender differences, saying men and women are "more like North Dakota and South Dakota."

Brizendine's goal isn't man-bashing (despite snippets like "the typical male brain reaction to an emotion is to avoid it at all costs"). Instead, she celebrates the differences.

"There is no unisex brain," Brizendine writes. "Girls arrive already wired as girls, and boys arrive already wired as boys. Their brains are different by the time they're born, and their brains are what drive their impulses, values and their very reality."

Brizendine's book offers a 2 1/2-page appendix on the female brain and sexual orientation, but she doesn't mention transgender folks. Sexual orientation, she writes, "does not appear to be a matter of conscious self-labeling but a matter of brain wiring." All women are wired for a sexual orientation during fetal development, and "the behavioral expression of her brain wiring will then be influenced and shaped by environment and culture."

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Deniles not just a river in Egypt. Does she mention anything about the "wiring" of hermaphrodites? That in and of itself would contradict her theories. I have to go now becasue there is a huge thunder storm heading this way and I am losing my WiFi. Goodnight to all.
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Deniles not just a river in Egypt. Does she mention anything about the "wiring" of hermaphrodites? That in and of itself would contradict her theories. I have to go now becasue there is a huge thunder storm heading this way and I am losing my WiFi. Goodnight to all.
Not in the book review. The book review mentions orientation but neither transgender nor hermaphrotism.
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Not in the book review. The book review mentions orientation but neither transgender nor hermaphrotism.
Do you think she did that on purpose, because if you factor in the transgender/hermaphrodite that blows the "pre-disposed wiring" theory all to he double toothpicks.
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Do you think she did that on purpose, because if you factor in the transgender/hermaphrodite that blows the "pre-disposed wiring" theory all to he double toothpicks.
It's the hammer metaphor. All she sees is nails. The author seems to be a endocrinologist and so, finds that all behavior is government hormonally. That should come as no surprise.

But give her some credit for popularizing her science. It's a valuable enterprise that too few scientists are will to risk.

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I always thought research had already concluded that "locale" was the major difference with the brains of the different genders...male brains are located BELOW the torso...typical male behavior supports this!
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It's the hammer metaphor. All she sees is nails. The author seems to be a endocrinologist and so, finds that all behavior is government hormonally. That should come as no surprise.

But give her some credit for popularizing her science. It's a valuable enterprise that too few scientists are will to risk.

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Where credit is due. Do you remember hearing about a case at Johns Hopkins in the 60's where a surgical procedure on a child's penis ran afoul and they ended up castrating the child and trying to force him to be a female? Didn't work- the "little girl" ended up fighting this change stating that she always "felt" like a boy. Nasty law suit ensued (no pun intended). Some how this validates the authors findings about wiring. I'd still be interested in the wiring of transgender and hermaprodites.
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Where credit is due. Do you remember hearing about a case at Johns Hopkins in the 60's where a surgical procedure on a child's penis ran afoul and they ended up castrating the child and trying to force him to be a female? Didn't work- the "little girl" ended up fighting this change stating that she always "felt" like a boy. Nasty law suit ensued (no pun intended). Something this validates the authors findings about wiring. I'd still be interested in the wiring of transgender and hermaprodites.
Ended up a suicide I believe. But that situation doesn't prove much because the parents knew of the difference as they raised the child. All kinds of weird responses would result.
I'd like to see her explanation of that island group which routinely produces females at birth who turn into males at puberty. It just can't be as simple as 'wired as m/f'.
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Ended up a suicide I believe. But that situation doesn't prove much because the parents knew of the difference as they raised the child. All kinds of weird responses would result.
I'd like to see her explanation of that island group which routinely produces females at birth who turn into males at puberty. It just can't be as simple as 'wired as m/f'.
What the heck? Are your talking about the Island of Dr. Moreaua(sp)? Summer camp with Josef Mengela?
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What the heck? Are your talking about the Island of Dr. Moreaua(sp)? Summer camp with Josef Mengela?
No, there are a group of island people with a genetic defect and little opportunity to breed with outsiders. The result is what I described. Children born with female genitalia which turn into male genitalia when the hormones of puberty kick in. Saw a documentary about it years ago. The group was isolated long enough that it was just a normal part of their culture to expect it to happen to a fair number of their children. They are hermaphrodites who only become apparent upon puberty.
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No, there are a group of island people with a genetic defect and little opportunity to breed with outsiders. The result is what I described. Children born with female genitalia which turn into male genitalia when the hormones of puberty kick in. Saw a documentary about it years ago. The group was isolated long enough that it was just a normal part of their culture to expect it to happen to a fair number of their children. They are hermaphrodites who only become apparent upon puberty.
More info please? What is the name of the island? Is anyone studying this now? name of the culture?
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The next to the last paragraph describes the group about which I saw the documentary.
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Did you know that women's brains are worth far less than men's? That is because men have 2 brains and women have 1. This means that the woman has to use her brain all the time as such, it has more wear and tear than a man's brains. The man uses the "lower" brain most of the time and so the "upper" one is in relatively pristine condition. Just like a car that has more miles and lower value, the brain costs are about like that.
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Did you know that women's brains are worth far less than men's? That is because men have 2 brains and women have 1. This means that the woman has to use her brain all the time as such, it has more wear and tear than a man's brains. The man uses the "lower" brain most of the time and so the "upper" one is in relatively pristine condition. Just like a car that has more miles and lower value, the brain costs are about like that.
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