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Vronsky 08-16-2006 09:01 AM

Voting in the USA
 
Amazing :eek: >>>

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/24315/20_Amazing_Facts_About_Voting_in_the_USA

Carleton Hughes 08-16-2006 09:18 AM

Why isn't Election day a National holiday?

azimuth 08-16-2006 09:37 AM

McKinney Criticizes Electronic Voting
Aug 15 11:55 PM US/Eastern
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By KATE BRUMBACK
Associated Press Writer


AUGUSTA, Ga.


Rep. Cynthia McKinney, in her first public appearance since losing her re-election bid last week, said Tuesday that the black community needs to oppose electronic voting machines, which she warned can be used to steal elections.

McKinney also said the state of Georgia should prohibit crossover voting among political parties in primary elections and end its system of runoff elections.

The fiery Democratic congresswoman, who scuffled with a Capitol Hill police officer earlier this year and has accused the Bush administration of having advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks, said she considers herself a "black political paramedic," and the "black body politic is near comatose."

McKinney made the remarks during the National Dialogue and Revival for Social Justice in the Black Church, sponsored by the Rev. Al Sharpton's group, the National Action Network. The Augusta crowd, estimated at fewer than 200 people, gave her a standing ovation when she was introduced and again when she finished speaking.

Last week McKinney lost her bid for a seventh term in Congress. Hank Johnson, a former DeKalb County commissioner, defeated her 59 percent to 41 percent in the Democratic runoff. Johnson, like McKinney, is black, and so are most people in the suburban Atlanta district.

In her concession speech on election night, McKinney blamed her defeat on the news media and electronic voting machines. She continued to criticize both Tuesday.

"You won't know who won as long as we have those electronic voting machines, with the problems that have been manifested by them," she said, criticizing Georgia officials for not requiring that paper records be kept of all votes.

She also blamed her loss in part on Republican crossover voting. She said open primaries _ where voters can choose to vote in either party's primary election, regardless of how they are registered _ should not be allowed.

McKinney also charged that Georgia's system of runoff elections, where winners must always receive more than 50 percent of the vote, violates the Voting Rights Act.

As for the media, she said: "What I have learned from the corporate media is that they are there to protect the status quo. They are there to protect the powers that be, and anyone who becomes a threat in any kind of way by providing information that will go directly to the survival of the community, to the uplifting of the people, will become an enemy."

Black churches, she said, need to act as an alternative source of information.

She refused to answer reporters' questions after her speech. A woman in McKinney's entourage got between the representative and a reporter. A male bodyguard said McKinney would not take questions.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/15/D8JH9EAG0.html

BENZ-LGB 08-16-2006 09:42 AM

Let's all move to Cuba, or Mexico..where they have free and fair elections. :dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:

Or let's turn the clock back to 1960's America, where the Chicago Democratic machine delivered Illinois (and the Presidency) to JFK...and then burned the ballots before they could be re-counted.

And, incidentally, isn't hagel the darling of the "loyal opposition" after he made that impassioned anti-war (and anti-Bush) speech.

Simply amazing....NOT!

BENZ-LGB 08-16-2006 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azimuth (Post 1247774)
McKinney Criticizes Electronic Voting
Aug 15 11:55 PM US/Eastern
Email this story

By KATE BRUMBACK
Associated Press Writer


AUGUSTA, Ga.


Rep. Cynthia McKinney, in her first public appearance since losing her re-election bid last week, said Tuesday that the black community needs to oppose electronic voting machines, which she warned can be used to steal elections.

McKinney also said the state of Georgia should prohibit crossover voting among political parties in primary elections and end its system of runoff elections.

The fiery Democratic congresswoman, who scuffled with a Capitol Hill police officer earlier this year and has accused the Bush administration of having advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks, said she considers herself a "black political paramedic," and the "black body politic is near comatose."

McKinney made the remarks during the National Dialogue and Revival for Social Justice in the Black Church, sponsored by the Rev. Al Sharpton's group, the National Action Network. The Augusta crowd, estimated at fewer than 200 people, gave her a standing ovation when she was introduced and again when she finished speaking.

Last week McKinney lost her bid for a seventh term in Congress. Hank Johnson, a former DeKalb County commissioner, defeated her 59 percent to 41 percent in the Democratic runoff. Johnson, like McKinney, is black, and so are most people in the suburban Atlanta district.

In her concession speech on election night, McKinney blamed her defeat on the news media and electronic voting machines. She continued to criticize both Tuesday.

"You won't know who won as long as we have those electronic voting machines, with the problems that have been manifested by them," she said, criticizing Georgia officials for not requiring that paper records be kept of all votes.

She also blamed her loss in part on Republican crossover voting. She said open primaries _ where voters can choose to vote in either party's primary election, regardless of how they are registered _ should not be allowed.

McKinney also charged that Georgia's system of runoff elections, where winners must always receive more than 50 percent of the vote, violates the Voting Rights Act.

As for the media, she said: "What I have learned from the corporate media is that they are there to protect the status quo. They are there to protect the powers that be, and anyone who becomes a threat in any kind of way by providing information that will go directly to the survival of the community, to the uplifting of the people, will become an enemy."

Black churches, she said, need to act as an alternative source of information.

She refused to answer reporters' questions after her speech. A woman in McKinney's entourage got between the representative and a reporter. A male bodyguard said McKinney would not take questions.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/15/D8JH9EAG0.html

I am surprised that she didn't call her opponent an "Uncle Tom" or a "house N"

It must have been all of those Black Republicans that crossed over and voted her out.

She is pathetic.

Maroon 300D 08-16-2006 11:29 AM

There really can be no doubt that electronic machines which leave no paper trail are a bad idea. Without the ability to re-count votes elections will always be called into question, perhaps rightly.

Nixon should have challenged the 1960 vote. IMO his failure to do so was a mistake that set the stage for future election fraud. People see election result challenges as 'sour grapes' when in reality we are much better off with each and every discrepency being uncovered.

John Doe 08-16-2006 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by azimuth (Post 1247774)

She also blamed her loss in part on Republican crossover voting. She said open primaries _ where voters can choose to vote in either party's primary election, regardless of how they are registered _ should not be allowed.


http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/08/15/D8JH9EAG0.html

Funny, the Republican challenger is a black woman.......

BENZ-LGB 08-16-2006 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maroon 300D (Post 1247846)
...Nixon should have challenged the 1960 vote. IMO his failure to do so was a mistake that set the stage for future election fraud. People see election result challenges as 'sour grapes' when in reality we are much better off with each and every discrepency being uncovered.

Yep!

Hatterasguy 08-16-2006 12:34 PM

Not having a paper trail isn't a good idea.

American politics currupt?:eek: Nah only since the late 1700's, everyone played by the rules before then.:D

Emmerich 08-16-2006 11:47 PM

Diebold has 5 felons? Isn't there more in Congress?

Why is the hell should we let any international observers in? Like they are trustworthy?

Yeah, you can't trust those Ohioans (sp). Looks like they have offices in 50 countries or more.

This is even a crock among your basic conspiracy theory crocks. As if every machine was "fixed" right before the election.

2000 generated a new word: disenfranchised-means your guy lost and you are a crybaby

peragro 08-17-2006 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1247778)
I am surprised that she didn't call her opponent an "Uncle Tom" or a "house N"

It must have been all of those Black Republicans that crossed over and voted her out.

She is pathetic.

Couple of observations and a question;

McKinney did indirectly call her opponent and uncle Tom, no surprise there.

We use electronic voting machines in my county. You place your vote on the screen, it electronically tallies your vote, it prints a paper copy for posterity.

How is Bush involved with the Dutch companies that make electronic voting machines in Europe for the EU elections? Nedap and Nederlandse Groenendaal I believe they are called.

BENZ-LGB 08-17-2006 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peragro (Post 1248706)
Couple of observations and a question;

McKinney did indirectly call her opponent and uncle Tom, no surprise there.

We use electronic voting machines in my county. You place your vote on the screen, it electronically tallies your vote, it prints a paper copy for posterity.

How is Bush involved with the Dutch companies that make electronic voting machines in Europe for the EU elections? Nedap and Nederlandse Groenendaal I believe they are called.


Your county is ahead of mine. We still use the punch-card, with the pull handle.

Bush is responsible for the fall of the Roman Empire and the demise of the world's dinosaurs.

I know that she indirectly called her opponent an Uncle Tom--I was trying to giver her a break...:silly:

Botnst 08-17-2006 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes (Post 1247763)
Why isn't Election day a National holiday?

Why should it be?

Maroon 300D 08-17-2006 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmerich (Post 1248663)
...2000 generated a new word: disenfranchised-means your guy lost and you are a crybaby

I'll have to remember that the next time Republicans complain about some court decision.

Seriously, though, if there is a problem with an election it should absolutely be found. Challenges are a good thing, not a bad one in my mind. Living with election discrepencies that skew the final result makes a joke of our republic.

"You cannot spread democracy abroad by deserting it at home." - Edward R. Murrow (may be a paraphrase)

John Doe 08-17-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 1248832)
Why should it be?

So the GOP folks that actually have jobs can go vote without being penalized by the DEM slavemaster bosses?:confused:


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