OK, its not censorship, but they don't want it aired. They complain that it is fiction, yet they don't point out the factual errors.

ABC/Disney. a tool of the right wing--who'd have thunk it?
Politics does make for strnge bedfellows

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Sure they do. Look at http://thinkprogress.org/, for example. They had multiple links over the last few days alleging all kinds of specific factual errors.

the republicans are using 9/11 and the aftermath to their advantage... 9/11 happened they went in hunted terrorist down, jailed suspected people without telling them why , go to iraq take down a govt and put in a "puppet democracy" and think they did good? pffft

I think the Demcrats should get their points squarely in line and give them over to Michael Moore to be their spokesperson as to why people shouldn't make things up.

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Wouldn't it have been nice if the Clinton admin had done ANYTHING effective to prevent this opportunity from presenting itself for the repubs to use?


Is this bad or illegal?



Is the world better off without Saddam Hussein in power? Could you show me proof that the fledgling Iraqi democracy is a puppet govt?

The democrats don't know their ass from their mouth. Period.

Their whole campaign revolves around putting down Bush....they have no other plans for anything but they can tell you everything you want about GW.

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As long as you don't want to know anything positive.

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As long as you don't want to know anything positive?

I'm still waiting.

Threads to that effect have been started several times, and I'm still waiting.

It is a matter of spin. One could argue that under Clinton, last time before 2001 someone tried to blow up the WTC, they were caught and jailed (1993).

I'm a paranoid sort with my tinfoil hat securely on, but have you considered how you might rethink things if Bush & co. had bought and paid for 9/11 as a means to quash opposition and bring in martial law in this country? What if that were the actual situation? Then what?

Ever heard of the Havasupai? A small tribe living at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, numbering about 600. Easy to do an anthropological study on them as the only way to reach the village is by horse or copter.

I think we'll not have peace until Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are reduced to an anthropological curiosity cut off from the rest of society, like the example above... I'm sick of some born-again whackos deciding that they have the moral imperative to start Armageddon by any means necessary. To assume that the Supreme Being gives a ***** what you do is the height of self-centered arrogance... The loonies are in control and there is naught we can do about it.

[QUOTE=RobTheMod;1269916]As long as you don't want to know anything positive?

I'm a paranoid sort with my tinfoil hat securely on, but have you considered how you might rethink things if Bush & co. had bought and paid for 9/11 as a means to quash opposition and bring in martial law in this country? What if that were the actual situation? Then what?

So, you base your opposition to Bush solely on a "What if that were the actual situation"?
One could easily counter, "What if it were not the actual situation?"
What if the actual situation was that Clinton ignored any terrorist threat because he was preoccupied with anything female, and his incompetence led directly to the attacks on 9-11? We know that the terrorists had attacked many times in the preceeding years with barely any US retailliation. One could imagine they were emboldened by that lack and decided to strike harder becasue there was little risk.
One of the liabilities of a political system like ours is that it mitigates against long-term solutions to anything. If the politician cannot get an immediate benefit, he will postpone it until he is out of office. This is true for almost anything from this war on terror, to our crumbling infrastructure--anything that requires a resolve that is measured in decades and not months. We have become a short-sighted people. This is not a good thing.

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Ha!

I think I heard about this on NPR this morning. Clinton and his former security chiefs are all working on keeping this thing off the air--directly involved--not hiding their work. I didn't hear any specific allegations of factual errors, it just seemed Clinton didn't like the conclusions that were drawn. More will pan out today and tomorrow, I am sure.

Several people have alleged specific factual errors. Clinton's lawyer wrote a letter to one of the big wheels at ABC that listed several alleged errors. I can't seem to find a link to it right now. Madeline Albright took issue with one scene in which she is portrayed as doing something stupid like declining an opportunity to get Bin Laden or something. She says it never happened. I don't know whether the allegations against the movie have merit, but they go beyond just not liking the conclusions.

On the conspiratorial side, it is odd that they gave Rush Limbaugh a pre-screening, but refused to show the movie to Clinton's people. I got that one from http://thinkprogress.org.

They probably showed rush first so they could explain it to him so the dumbass wouldn't misquote it and such after release.

So it is not ok to besmirch Golden Boy Clinton's legacy through artistic expression, but it is ok to show a movie about a sitting President getting whacked? What's that saying about sauces and gooses, d? Where have all the liberals gone?

what ever... but cant we just leave 9/11 behind us and move on... yes it was a horrible thing.. but must the mediaand goverment shove it into everyones face....

NO! We cannot ever leave 9-11 behind us. To forget is to encourage its repeatition.
That is the trouble with the masses in this country--if my stomach is full and I get a paycheck this week, then all is OK.

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