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Old 09-29-2006, 12:46 PM
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See outsourcing works!

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See outsourcing works, your order is screwed no matter who takes it!

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Old 09-29-2006, 02:24 PM
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out sourcing isn't nice....
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:39 PM
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out sourcing isn't nice....
There is nothing wrong with outsourcing...in a way it's a very good thing if you think about it. It gives us Americans cheaper prices for the same goods that would be produced in the States. I'm not talking about a buck or two cheaper, I'm talking about paying half price just because it was outsourced. Outsourcing also creates better educated people in America since most of the crappy jobs are going overseas....hence, many older Americans are going back to school. I can see this in some of my classes that are scheduled later -- most are filled with old geezers. I sort of feel bad for them because most are so incompetant when it comes to school and technology that it's not even funny.
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:04 PM
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Outsourcing is the same as illegal immigration ever stop and think about that? Both take away jobs, increase corporate profits, allow corporate tax evasion.

If the restaurant industry could cook all their food across the border and serve it within a few minutes they would.

Edit: I should say outsourcing overseas
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:05 PM
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There is nothing wrong with outsourcing...in a way it's a very good thing if you think about it. It gives us Americans cheaper prices for the same goods that would be produced in the States. I'm not talking about a buck or two cheaper, I'm talking about paying half price just because it was outsourced. Outsourcing also creates better educated people in America since most of the crappy jobs are going overseas....hence, many older Americans are going back to school. I can see this in some of my classes that are scheduled later -- most are filled with old geezers. I sort of feel bad for them because most are so incompetant when it comes to school and technology that it's not even funny.

Yet another lesson in diplomacy by Kamil.

You sir are correct that a better educated society has higher paying jobs, and that a large reason why US jobs pay so much more than other countries is because our productivity is among the highest in the world. Since the mid 80's our productivity has increased greatly whereas the productvity in the rest of the world has not kept pace.

I think it is great that India which is the world's largest democracy is getting a piece of "the American Dream", but I don't feel the same way about totalitarian China.

That is a funny video, but it can't be real.
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:16 PM
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I think it is great that India which is the world's largest democracy is getting a piece of "the American Dream", but I don't feel the same way about totalitarian China.
Us average US citizens can still profit from India and China's rapid growth. Look into american stocks/funds that are based out of those countries. Don't forget Brazil either, they're going through crazy growth as well.
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Old 09-29-2006, 11:17 PM
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Where I work, alot of stuff is made in China, alot of it is just cheaply made, and the stuff made in the USA is much better quality. I am starting to buy stuff that is made in the USA, if I can, or at least in North America, since it seems like Mexico is part of the United States these days
I think that by itself quality is overated. We need to figure out 2 important things.

1. Is it worth it? IOW, should I buy a $10 hammer that lasts for 4 years or 3 hammers at $2 apiece that last for 4 years total? IOW, if I pay twice more for your product, is it twice as good as the cheaper one?

2. Can I afford this expensive one today. Doesn't matter how good it is but if it cost me $100, can I pay that much for an item?
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Old 09-29-2006, 11:29 PM
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I enjoy quality fishing equipment. The best fishing reels in the world are made two cities over from me in Bridgeport CT. Van Staal, is the Rolls Royce of fishing reels.

The same goes for rods, all the best fishing tackle is made in this country. Actualy going further a lot in New England.

The junk made in Asia is sold at discount sports stores for a few bucks and is crap.
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Old 09-29-2006, 11:36 PM
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Tale a Remmington 870 shotgun. Do I buy the Express or the Wingmaster? Well, which one is more accurate? I would say they both are about the same having shot both on a vice. So, for just hunting alone and not asthetics, I'd get the Express.

The cheap rod and reel combos can be had for $20 on some sale days. A good spinning reel can be had for $100+. However, I am casting all day long. That good one is now a bargain.

Bottom line is you have to define what you need the item for and figure out if it is worth it. In the case of the gun, if you want to show it off, get the wingmaster. If you want to shoot clays, I'd get the Express. With the rod and reel, I'd get the asian one if I was trying out fishing for a couple days. Now if I were to do it often enough, I'd buy the $100+ one.
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There is nothing wrong with outsourcing...in a way it's a very good thing if you think about it. It gives us Americans cheaper prices for the same goods that would be produced in the States.

...Outsourcing also creates better educated people in America since most of the crappy jobs are going overseas....hence, many older Americans are going back to school. I can see this in some of my classes that are scheduled later -- most are filled with old geezers. I sort of feel bad for them because most are so incompetant when it comes to school and technology that it's not even funny.
Another brilliant position from the kid in school. Think it out a little sonny, and come back to me when we outsource our next job, farming. Don`t get hungry now while you contemplate the reality of being totally dependent.
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Another brilliant position from the kid in school. Think it out a little sonny, and come back to me when we outsource our next job, farming. Don`t get hungry now while you contemplate the reality of being totally dependent.
We won't outsource farming during our life times. USA is so abundant in land that it doesn't pay to grow the crap anywhere else. Heck, land is cheap here. You can go and pay a few dollars for an acre of land that would be suitable for growing food.
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... Heck, land is cheap here. You can go and pay a few dollars for an acre of land that would be suitable for growing food.
You simpy do not know what you are talking about son. Get some more of that expensive edubacation and get back with me when the real world hits you in the face.
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Old 09-30-2006, 05:12 AM
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You simpy do not know what you are talking about son. Get some more of that expensive edubacation and get back with me when the real world hits you in the face.
I'm in level 4 economics courses where we have applied economic models to this issue. Land is extremely cheap in the USA.....here you go, $250K for 322 acres. We don't need to outsource our food supply just yet. While I'm getting my expensive education, you should probably start looking for a new job cause I'm sure your current one is bound to be outsourced since you are complaining so much.

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Old 09-30-2006, 05:43 AM
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I'm in level 4 economics courses where we have applied economic models to this issue. Land is extremely cheap in the USA.....here you go, $250K for 322 acres. We don't need to outsource our food supply just yet. While I'm getting my expensive education, you should probably start looking for a new job cause I'm sure your current one is bound to be outsourced since you are complaining so much.

http://cgi.ebay.com/322-AC-Arkansas-Ranch-Farm-Property-Land-For-Sale-Ponds_W0QQitemZ320028277155QQihZ011QQcategoryZ15841QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Oh, you are studying the theory of economics, great. If you knew anything at all about farming and the real world your might begin to understand that all land is not the same and that all is not suitable for long term farming... and that most which fits that bill is now sprouting subdivisions of corporate McHousing units rather than foodstuffs. Do a little economics on that situation boy wonder.

And my job is in the field of sustainable development and resource conservation, something we are going to be needing alot more of as you economic theorists continue to miscalculate the full and true costs of goods/services that get billed to future generations. I`ll be quite busy while you look like this...
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Old 09-30-2006, 05:53 AM
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Outsourcing is the same as illegal immigration ever stop and think about that? Both take away jobs, increase corporate profits, allow corporate tax evasion.

If the restaurant industry could cook all their food across the border and serve it within a few minutes they would.

Edit: I should say outsourcing overseas
There is an easy way to fix corporate tax evasion, take away the targeted tax cuts written into law by Congerss and signed by the President.

I do want illegal immigration stopped, btw.

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