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rs899 · #16 11-14-2006, 07:07 AM

I am a big FLW fan and appreciate good architecture. I visited Florida Southern in Lakeland and Taliesin West in AZ. I would really like to see Fallingwater someday, it's on my list. We built/live in a house designed by one of his students, John Rattenbury (it was the Life Magazine Dream house 1997).

tom- have you ever ventured further south to Columbus, IN and seen the whole town full of great structures by Saarinen etc?

Rick

soypwrd · #17 11-14-2006, 07:35 AM

Not to get off topic, but if you guys like FLW you might also appreciate the Greene Brothers.

http://www.gamblehouse.org/

http://www.furnituremaker.com/

I like FLW but G+G a good bit better.

t walgamuth · #18 11-14-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rs899

I am a big FLW fan and appreciate good architecture. I visited Florida Southern in Lakeland and Taliesin West in AZ. I would really like to see Fallingwater someday, it's on my list. We built/live in a house designed by one of his students, John Rattenbury (it was the Life Magazine Dream house 1997).

tom- have you ever ventured further south to Columbus, IN and seen the whole town full of great structures by Saarinen etc?

Rick

yes, indeed, many times. saarenin's churches stand out in my mind, bothe eliel and arrenin (sp?). colombus in has a lot to offer, all from the vision of mr. miller, the president of cummins who many years ago offered to pay the architecture fee for any person or business who would allow him to choose the architect. and he always chose great ones!

tom w

t walgamuth · #19 11-14-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by soypwrd

Not to get off topic, but if you guys like FLW you might also appreciate the Greene Brothers.

http://www.gamblehouse.org/

http://www.furnituremaker.com/

I like FLW but G+G a good bit better.

the greenes are great too. but i dont think i have ever been in one of their homes. i have abook on them though and their use of wood is exquisite.

tom w

t walgamuth · #20 11-14-2006, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by soypwrd

Not to get off topic, but if you guys like FLW you might also appreciate the Greene Brothers.

http://www.gamblehouse.org/

http://www.furnituremaker.com/

I like FLW but G+G a good bit better.

those links are interesting. i will try to look deeper tonight.

ok, i just took the tour of the gamble house. wow! the whole interior is like living in an exquisite piece of futniture. the exterior doesnt work as well as the inside but it is still nice especially the landscaping. i didnt realize that they were japanese influenced but after reading it it is clearly so.

ok i just looked at the furniture some more. do you think they would take a sec in trade? nice stuff.

tom w

pastmaster · #21 11-14-2006, 09:58 PM

Tom,

Here's a link to Church's, designed by FLW.

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fnart/fa267/FLW_churches.html

I saw a similar Greek Orthodox Church, in a Sydney suburb, in OZ. It looked similar to the one shown in Wauwautosa , WI.

YIA...Paul.

t walgamuth · #22 11-14-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pastmaster

Tom,

Here's a link to Church's, designed by FLW.

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fnart/fa267/FLW_churches.html

I saw a similar Greek Orthodox Church, in a Sydney suburb, in OZ. It looked similar to the one shown in Wauwautosa , WI.

YIA...Paul.

cool link paul. it hit me that the annuncialtion church must have been the model for one of my classmate's thesis designs! only in his version it was a stadium of some type!

that one in shorewood was exquisite. the inside views remind of the chapel on lakeland campus.
the other jewish temple was very nice too.

yeah, he was damned good!

tom w

davestlouis · #23 11-14-2006, 10:27 PM

I have seen lots of new commercial buildings locally in the last couple of years with details that I associate with FLW...prairie-ish roofs with huge overhangs and shallow pitch, the use of stone and stucco wall finishes, windows set in a fashion that looks FLWish to me. These tend to be banks, doctor's offices and other upscale construction.

davestlouis · #24 11-14-2006, 10:29 PM

I don't "get" some of his Utopian construction, the lower end homes that could be do-it-yourself, including making your own concrete blocks. I have to imagine that acres of single pane glass and flat roofs just didn't lend themselves to use in cold climates.

t walgamuth · #25 11-14-2006, 10:36 PM

yeah, they were an attempt to reach ordinary folks.

of course the ranch home is a direct result of wright's influence.

a few years back i did a major addition to a vaguely flw ranch home in west lafayette for a professor and his wife. i took the original design one level higher in its flw nod. it came out pretty well. they loved it. and in the beginning they were a little ambivilant about taking money out of the stock market to do the addition but in the end decided they wanted the house addition and just did it.

and it turned out that taking the money out of the stocks and putting it into real estate at that time was the perfect thing to do as stocks tanked just after they did the addition.

nice folks too.

and that job led to another addition a couple blocks away that turned out real well too, but the client's wife was ..... not so nice.

when you get into high income clients a much higher percentage of them turn out to be high maintenance.

tom w

kerry · #26 11-14-2006, 10:54 PM

http://www.pjar.com/pdf/Roofless_Church.pdf

pastmaster · #27 11-15-2006, 01:41 AM

Tom, I forgot to mention in my previous post of the Domino's Pizza Corporate HQ, in Ann Arbor, MI. Tom Monahan, built it according to FLW's ideas on a corporate bldg, that were never built. Tom Monahan was a real fan and purchased a FLW chair for some $$$$$ price. If you recall he paid the first $1 million for a Duesenberg. If you get up to Ann Arbor, you have to see the building as it is the largest building in the world under a copper roof when it was built. It looks like The Great Hall of China, to me, it's big. YIA...Paul

soypwrd · #28 11-15-2006, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

those links are interesting. i will try to look deeper tonight.

ok, i just took the tour of the gamble house. wow! the whole interior is like living in an exquisite piece of futniture.

tom w

Have you not seen the Greene Bros work until now Tom? It's hard to beleive anyove who is into FLW was not learned about the Bros. Look more into them and their interiors, awesome stuff IMHO.

t walgamuth · #29 11-15-2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry edwards

http://www.pjar.com/pdf/Roofless_Church.pdf

that is very interesting looking. i am surprised i have not seen it before. it sure doesnot look dated. i will have to try to go experience it first hand to see how it works.

thanks for the post.

tom w

t walgamuth · #30 11-15-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pastmaster

Tom, I forgot to mention in my previous post of the Domino's Pizza Corporate HQ, in Ann Arbor, MI. Tom Monahan, built it according to FLW's ideas on a corporate bldg, that were never built. Tom Monahan was a real fan and purchased a FLW chair for some $$$$$ price. If you recall he paid the first $1 million for a Duesenberg. If you get up to Ann Arbor, you have to see the building as it is the largest building in the world under a copper roof when it was built. It looks like The Great Hall of China, to me, it's big. YIA...Paul

yeah, i knew about his flw admiration and have seen some publications of things he had built along those lines.

what i remember was that he paid 11m for a bugatti royale, the one that is generally considered the least attractive in terms of body style. then a few years later came on harder times and sold it for a loss of several mil.

i have an autographed copy of his book "pizza tiger".

tom w