Do girls like guys who are jerks?
 

Being the nice guy isn't working for me, and it seems some hot girls get turned on by "bad boys".

Maybe I need to be more of a jerk? IE insted of saying, so do you want to do anything tonight? COME OVER NOW AND BANG ME B***.:D

Does this actualy work?

Depends on where you're hangin'. Do girls like jerks? Depends on what you mean by a jerk, I suppose. Girls like challenges, just like we do. Put yourself out there, go for a good time and don't think about anything else. If you come across as easily conquered (emotionally in particular), you're toast with any girl worth her salt. Be fun, and be aloof -- let them in physically, but not emotionally.

Hypothesis: Most women prefer jerks
Experiment Procedure:
1. Become a jerk.
2. Try to get women.
3. Observe results.

WARNING: Be prepared to pick up teeth from ground

Sounds like a lack of playing time. Spend more time trying to pick up women than here and you will find the answer, grasshopper. My experience is that women like confident types that are romantic, btw:cool:

Most of the women I'm interested in usually fall for type-A personalities. I'm curious to see if this changes as we all get older-perhaps they'll want something more...house-trained for marrige?

I got nowhere with women untill I became confidant and assertive. While you might consider them a 'jerk' the girl might think of them as something very different...

cheers,
dan r.

Old saying : "treat them like dirt and they stick like mud"

im the nicest guy ever and yet i get nothing.. i have yet to give up .. partly due to the fact most of the girls are dumbasses anyways.. pfft

Catching a girl
 

Catching a woman is like being in a room and trying to catch a falling feather. The more you try to catch the feather the harder it is to catch it....and like the waiting hand...just allow the feather to fall into the hand...much like a Venus fly trap...Snap! Then treat'em like what best fits your personality...and when they want to marry....RUN like Forrest Gump

Acting like a jerk is probably not going to yield someone with the personalty you're looking for. It's a confidence/security issue for them.

The jerks always win with the women in the early years, then the women realise it's not worth it and come crawling back to us - the decent guys.
My "high school sweet heart", if you will, was one of my best friends.
Throughout our years of friendship, she knew exactly how I felt, but would always push me away when I made it clear. Then she started seeing this pond life scum trailer trash guy. She was with him for 2 years, in which they split up 3 times, all of them because he was cheating her. I would have broken his legs on a whim, had she asked me, but every time she would crawl back to him and they would get back together.
Then, a couple of years later I found out she always felt exactly the same way about me, even though she had always denied it to my face. That really messed things up.
I wish I could say that we're together now - we're not - but I know that the guy she's in a long term relationship with now is a good bloke who will treat her as well as I would have.
What I'm saying is don't change yourself, don't let yourself become one of them. Keep as you are, and soon enough you'll stumble across someone who's most likely been hurt in the past, who just wants a decent, good person. It's the same story over, and over again, and it's always the same.

Works for me! How do you think I've won dates with most of the chicks in the pretty girl's thread?:D

Quite possibly the most meaningful thing I've heard this millenium!

Just be yourself. Unless your a total loser, then try to be somebody else.:D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game:_Penetrating_the_Secret_Society_of_Pickup_Artists


get a copy, read it through a couple of times.




It's not a guide or anything, it does infact have a storyline. It's all true, though. well worth a read.

Do girls like guys that are jerks?
 

I don't think so.

I've never had any fortune with girls. But I guess I am a very oblivious guy, from what I've been told.

Occurrences such as a girl introducing her name, a girl I've never seen before, asking about common interests, talking about her life....

Me: Who are you again?

While I typed away at my term paper on the future impact of globalization.

Another girl approached me one night, I hadn't seen her in at least eight years. She reintroduced herself to me (had a serious crush on her in eighth grade). Didn't remember who she was. Real smooth...Who are you?...Oh!

Then after they're done speaking, a moment of silence....I can not carry out conversations in person for my life. This kills any type of friendship from forming, or anything else FWIW.
I just do not know how to speak as candidly as they do. I don't have the ability I suppose. They're such motormouths in general.

I've also turned down giving my phone # when I was in high school. I was actually insecure about giving out that kind of personal information to a girl I knew for (only) three years.

Doomed to remain a bachelor forever. Just the kind of guy I am, I suppose.

Yes, but you must accompany this demand with a valid credit card number.

I've found being nice actually works better with the skanks and tweakers than the decent women. And for the older gals, being rude or impolite gets it done. Extremely a**hole-ish. But this is Bakersfield....

Do girls like jerks?

Where's kamil when you need him?

Hmm.

I'm really not sure how to answer this.

I thought I was the nice guy for years, certainly I got walked on enough to prove that:confused: ... realized that i basically couldn't be unemployed enough, fat enough, or bald enough to get any (I'm being cynical here, but you wouldn't *believe* some of the jagoffs who beat me in the area of female conquests!)... finally got picked up by a girl who said she'd been after me for 12 yrs, tho I was too oblivious to notice... she left me, on my birthday, 30th BTW, for a guy with too many visible tattoos.

1 month later was pursued, thru friendly intervention, by a cute, petite, blonde graduate archaeologist whose friends allowed me to escort her home due mainly to the aura projected by a clean W126, as "it takes a certain kind of gentleman to drive a car like that"... and off we went. Moved in two months later, and now we're coming up on a year together.

So don't be a jerk, don't be nice, and don't follow the worn-out cliche of being yourself... just basically get so thumped by romantic encounters that you don't act like anyone at all... and you'll get pursued by one who will make the bad-boy chasers pale in comparison. At least that's my experience...

You need this:

http://www.doubleyourdating.com/16874/

get the CD's and study up!

Being yourself doesn't mean you can't change what being "yourself" really is!

You can fake it for a couple of dates, but the real self will come out eventually, so no point in doing that.

A lot of wise info dispensed here regarding confidence...girls aren't attracted to doormats...nor do they care for someone who likes them way too much. Don't always be available to her, have other interests and friends.

Girls you are noticing aren't deep enough agewise to look beyond superficial trappings, so cool cars and athletic prowess score points on any level. That unfortunately, is life!

Geeks rule later on...as captains of industry. The jocks end up living the "Al Bundy" scenario, constantly reliving the glory days back in high school.

Don't get bitter as you get older. I did, and as my hard work and tenacity began to pay off, girls started noticing, but I would rebuff all of them, knowing that a few years earlier, none of them would give me the time of day!

Btw, as I write this, I thought about what transpired, and last night, looked at the couples that make up the parents of my girl's soccer team. The wives were attractive, and each of the husbands were geeky (or at least you could see their geekdom ancestry).

We geeks do win in the end! :laugh2:

My problem is I am a nice guy and a gentleman, doesn't seem to work to well. I play aloof ext which works. Love doing it at bars because hot girls just expect you to buy them drinks and when you don't it drives them nuts.:D
Confidence? Thats not a problem.
I guess I just havn't found one that has connected with me. It seems the girls around my age(late teens early 20's) are interested in guys with hot cars and bikes. I'm thinking so what the guy has a bike, he gets $10 an hour and 10 years from now will be making $15. But they just see the cool things.

I feel I am slipping into the friend catagory with my latest one, didn't even get her bra off last night.:( Had a good conversation and all but we have been doing that for awhile(couple months), the relationship is stalled. Oh well I'll give her a bit more time to figure it out then move on.

"Do unto others as you have them do . . ."
 

I've reiterated that old maxim to my kids all their lives. It seems to cover interpersonal relationships about as succinctly as anything I have ever run across.

I think you get screwed sometimes in the short term when you try to be nice to people, but in the long run your behavior becomes your reputation, and your reputation preceeds you. People (including the female ones) will respect you more and like you better if you treat them well.

Taking them for a drive at 140 MPH helps too.

the book I pointed out earlier is much better, afaik.

Monomer

Hatterasguy probably needs to get over his clingy and needy habbits which reading either or both books would help him do.

I may get the book you recommend as well.

well worth it.


It's not a "guide" pre-say, but it does look into how "The Game" works - and why it does. And from many diffrent point of views.


damn cling-ons.....

buckwheat
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Originally Posted by G-Benz View Post
Being yourself doesn't mean you can't change what being "yourself" really is!
What in the sam hell are you talking about?


YES! If you don't understand what G-Benz is talking about, you're limiting yourself in all areas of life, not just dating. The ability to make ourselves into what we choose is fundamental in all things...


cheers,
dan r.

You got Eva Braun! What else you want....? :D

Yo!!

" ... say good night to the bad guy... " - Tony Montana aka Scarface

And where the heck is the "pretty girl's thread" ... :brows: ??

Funny that you mention this, but I actually am going to a movie for the first time tonight. Thing is though, I don't really know if it's a date. I think it is. When I call her to talk about movie times I'm going to see if she has any dinner plans. I'm hoping I get the chance to pick her up since she goes to school a half hour away in Greencastle which doesn't have a theatre. Anyways, she seems to go for the nice guy intellectual types. I went to high school with her and she was a class ahead of me. Anyway, never said a word to her in H.S. but I met her Fri. night on a retreat that lasted until yesterday afternoon. So, Hattie, do things which you are interested in and there you will find women who are interested in similar things. CONFIDENCE is key. When I was at this retreat I was very outgoing, funny, and CONFIDENT because I grew some balls. It's funny but I used to not be a very confident person at all, self esteem issues, etc. Anyways, you don't have to be the best looking guy, just have the attitude that you are. No girl will become angry if a guy is not afraid to say hello to them. I'm not saying just approach at any random time since that's a bad idea, but if you are both...say at a real estate convention, there is no reason at all that you shouldn't go up and start talking to her. Girls like to laugh, then again, everyone does. However, if you're not funny, don't worry, and don't try, though girls do have different senses of humor, so go with whatever you feel good about. The biggest thing is to not be intimidated and don't instantly let on that you're in love with her. Keep eye contact when talking, and LISTEN to what she has to say. Not every girl will be interested because they're either not looking or open to the idea of you or there are many other reasons as well. Besides, not all women are good with conversations and starting relationships just as not all men are.

One more thing. If I remember correctly, you commute to school. Best scenario would be to live on campus or, in your situation, be very involved in campus activities. Go to parties, dances, as well as other social or religious gathertings. At parties and dances, people are there to socialize and are open to meeting new people 90% of the time. Doesn't mean they necessarily want to date you or "hook up" but they wouldn't mind meeting you. Next time you're at a party, don't just stand next to your best guy friend, go up to an ugly girl and ask how she likes the song, or "I haven't seen you around before, from around here?" or other meaningless conversation starters. If it's a party for someone in particular, ie a 21st birthday party, ask how they know the person, even if you already know the damn answer. You're just starting a conversation. Most women, do not mind talking, in fact I'll bet a lot of people would argue you often can't get them to shut up, so think of yourself as giving her an outline as to what she should tell you. The reason I go to an ugly girl is practice, if there's a girl you're "eyeing" don't immediately go up to her. Talk to and meet other people first so as to feel more comfortable meeting new people. Or, do what many other people do, take 6 shots of Vodka and you'll find yourself open up a lot more.

Good luck, and sorry for the ramble. Much of this you probably know but the main point is to feel CONFIDENT in yourself. Don't once think about yourself once you're at the function, ie, do I look ok, etc. Speak clearly and don't stutter. The other thing is to get yourself out there as much as possible, so you're obviously not going to get every girl that you try for, but if you get 1 out of 6, and put yourself out there 18 times in one night, do the math.

Thanks
David