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G-Benz 11-21-2006 07:56 AM

Another "keep or sell?" thread...my 93 300E
 
My indie announced the dreaded head gasket failure issue...the tranny is already slipping so I am hunting for a replacement. Got almost 170K on the clock.

The body is straight and the interior is pretty nice IMHO. But it appears that I will be in for waay more $$$ just to get nominal driveability, unless I can yank a decent drivetrain out of a wrecked W124..

I can probably drive it for another six months or so before it gets too bad to drive at all, so I have time to consider my options. I LOVE the car and I really am not in the mood to look at anything new enough that I have to stare down a multi-year car note yet again. Plus, I'm not too confident about the reliability of the newer MBs and will probably end up looking at a Honda, Nissan or Toyota.

I probably already know what I should do, but I am entertaining any and all opinions...

Botnst 11-21-2006 08:21 AM

How much of the problems with late models are due to unrealistic expectations? The expectations have got to be really high for two reasons, I think.

1. M-B have a tradition of reliability. That tradition came from an era of simple mechanical and electro-mechanical designs, reaching their zenith (IMO) with the W123. The W126 and W124 ushered-in the era of electric convenience items and automotive electronics. At first it was rather simple and easily tested. But in the decades since the 1980's the electronics have gotten tremendously complex. Complexity tempts fate and fate is never kind. When compared to the Japanese luxury cars, the M-B's since the W124 have suffered. Why? because the Japanese rebuilt their country, post-WWII, on electronics invention, design, and marketing.

When I was a kid we differentiated radios from transistor radios. Transistor radios were, in only a few years, almost exclusively Japanese because the Japanese made cheap and increasingly reliable portable radios. Thus, the Japanese had nearly 40 years of electronics design and manufacturing head start. It was a small matter for them to take their excellent design and production methods into automobiles. Contrast that with English & European electronics.

2. Plunk-down big bucks for a car the sucker better work. I know a couple of guys here locally that have bought 2006 M-B's and are very pleased with them. No problems and they say the cars are fun and comfortable. You can bet if they weren't pleased that everybody they know would hear about it.

raymr 11-21-2006 10:55 AM

Get some prices on a used drivetrain with warranty. Compare that with the purchase price of another car that you do not love, and go from there.

suginami 11-21-2006 12:09 PM

Locally here in Southern California, you can get a rebuilt tranny for your car with a one year warranty for $1,500, installed.

A head gasket will cost you arount $1,200 - $1,500.

So you're looking at $3,000 to get it back on the road?

Is it worth it to you? Only you can decide.

What can you buy for $3,000 to replace it?

Hatterasguy 11-21-2006 12:16 PM

Depends on what you want to do. You can get some awsome deals on W210's these days.

Mistress 11-21-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr (Post 1336430)
Get some prices on a used drivetrain with warranty. Compare that with the purchase price of another car that you do not love, and go from there.

I agree. Especially if you LOVE driving the vehicle. Nothing handles quit as nice as a "seasoned" MB on the open road....

Dee8go 11-21-2006 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1336722)
I agree. Especially if you LOVE driving the vehicle. Nothing handles quit as nice as a "seasoned" MB on the open road....

Mistress, I will remind you that you said this the next time Maxine "comes down with something!" :D

Mistress 11-21-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1336726)
Mistress, I will remind you that you said this the next time Maxine "comes down with something!" :D

BITE ME.

Dee8go 11-21-2006 04:31 PM

Easy, now!
 
Hee, hee, hee! Don't get testy with ME.:eek:

A264172 11-21-2006 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Benz (Post 1336285)

I probably already know what I should do, but I am entertaining any and all opinions...

What else is wrong with it? Rust? Upolstery?...

suginami 11-21-2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackE55 (Post 1336568)
I'd watch it with some of those refurb'd tranny outifits. When the trans on my 560 failed, I looked into Adsit. More than a few people told me they got a few thousand miles out of them before failure. Under warranty, but not for labor or freight. Infact, the mechanic who bought my 560, got a unit from them (I think) sold it, and the new owner had a failed trans within 2 weeks.

There's a few good places out there, but you'll pay at least $3K for a trans. Name escapes me now...

Sell it and look into a '07 S550. :)

I'm sure there are poorly rebuilt units, but I'm sure there is a well-regarded rebuilder of these transmissions in the Dallas area.

Heck, If Mr. Motors can buy and install them for $1,500 in Southern California, I'm sure there is a similar outfit in Texas.

Jim B. 11-21-2006 09:41 PM

Since you love the car and are familiar with it's history, I would vote you make the needed repairs.

The W124 300E sedan is a proven and durable design, and as long as yours hasn't suffered terminal rust, I'd be inclined to keep it. Of course you have asked on a forum dedicated to keeping them on the road, you can't expect too many answers suggesting a new Toyota Corolla.

G-Benz 11-21-2006 10:16 PM

Keep 'em coming...

My wife is screaming the loudest so far regarding cutting my losses and moving on...but she hasn't offered any real alternatives, only that I not spend any more money on the car.

Being in Texas throughout its life (me and the PO), there isn't a speck of rust anywhere on the car. The seats are worn but not tattered (nothing a little Leatherique couldn't fix). I had replaced the cracked center console a few years ago, and installed a wood shifter and chrome shift surround as well.

The only interior issue is the sagging headliner (we trade salt and corrosive elements for excessive heat breakdown of adhesives).

Plus, I HATE the thought of taking on another several years of crippling car payments!!!

suginami 11-21-2006 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Benz (Post 1337053)
Keep 'em coming...

My wife is screaming the loudest so far regarding cutting my losses and moving on...but she hasn't offered any real alternatives, only that I not spend any more money on the car.

Being in Texas throughout its life (me and the PO), there isn't a speck of rust anywhere on the car. The seats are worn but not tattered (nothing a little Leatherique couldn't fix). I had replaced the cracked center console a few years ago, and installed a wood shifter and chrome shift surround as well.

The only interior issue is the sagging headliner (we trade salt and corrosive elements for excessive heat breakdown of adhesives).

Plus, I HATE the thought of taking on another several years of crippling car payments!!!

I thought she'd give you a pass on this one as you just traded in her SL500 for a newer CLK cabriolet?:P

I mean, what's the deal, she not only determines what she drives but also what you do with your money on your own car?:confused:

A264172 11-21-2006 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Benz (Post 1337053)
Keep 'em coming...

My wife is screaming the loudest so far regarding cutting my losses and moving on...but she hasn't offered any real alternatives, only that I not spend any more money on the car.

Being in Texas throughout its life (me and the PO), there isn't a speck of rust anywhere on the car. The seats are worn but not tattered (nothing a little Leatherique couldn't fix). I had replaced the cracked center console a few years ago, and installed a wood shifter and chrome shift surround as well.

The only interior issue is the sagging headliner (we trade salt and corrosive elements for excessive heat breakdown of adhesives).

Plus, I HATE the thought of taking on another several years of crippling car payments!!!

If the body is solid... you know what to do... ;)

Just think how great that thing will feel with a new drive line. :D


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