Are you sinless or a sinner?....

[Matt SD300]

this should be interesting...

[Matt L]

What a silly question. Whether one is a sinner is only predicated upon whether one believes in certain gods.

[TheDon]

gah

[kerry]

Sinner. I was once redeemed but realized the implication of having to spend eternity with Baptists and Pentecostals so turned in my 'Get out of hell free card'.

[Palangi]

Lord, I have sinned..... I bought a Toyota....

[Carleton Hughes]

"Only through sin can you achieve freedom.
He who has desires must sin,sin as often as you can until you can sin no more.

When you cannot sin anymore you are purged of desire,he that is purged of desire has gained freedom"
Grigori Efimovich Rasputin.

[raymr]

If I answer this, can I still become President?

[MTI]

Originally Posted by Matt SD300

this should be interesting...

Over estimation on your part, perhaps.

[Kuan]

You non-Christians have no right to answer this thread. It does not pertain to you.

[kerry]

Are Christians the only ones who believe in sin?

I think it might be more interesting to discuss the nature of sin. One of its interesting social features in my opinion, is the way in which the doctrine of sin undermines utopian visions of justice and equity. Certainly in its Augustinian version, it also stops deliberate efforts of social improvement by tagging on the idea of predestination. So sin seems to be in some serious tension with capitalism as well as socialism.

[Jim H]

Originally Posted by Kuan

You non-Christians have no right to answer this thread. It does not pertain to you.

Islam recognizes sin, sinners and repentance.

[Kuan]

Originally Posted by Jim H

Islam recognizes sin, sinners and repentance.

Sorry, worshippers of non-Abrahamic gods.

[Matt SD300]

Originally Posted by Jim H

Islam recognizes sin, sinners and repentance.

Bingo...every religion on earth analogies sin..if not..no need for religion.. seems most important?..

[Matt SD300]

Originally Posted by Kuan

Sorry, worshippers of non-Abrahamic gods.

No sin in you? ...Never told a lie??.....For a man with no sin is righteous with GOD...

[Carleton Hughes]

Originally Posted by kerry edwards

Are Christians the only ones who believe in sin?

I think it might be more interesting to discuss the nature of sin. One of its interesting social features in my opinion, is the way in which the doctrine of sin undermines utopian visions of justice and equity. Certainly in its Augustinian version, it also stops deliberate efforts of social improvement by tagging on the idea of predestination. So sin seems to be in some serious tension with capitalism as well as socialism.

Certainly not,but since you've mixed the fecal-stained,specious tarbrush of spiritualism with lucre that deserves a reply.

Let's examine the Utopian myth,started by one of Henry VIII's ministers,that virulent torturer of heretics,Sir Thomas More.

His Utopia was,as written a moderate socialist state,rigidly controlled by strong central authority and malefactors were dealt with severely. In More's Utopia everyone was assigned a task,work was mandatory and little time was left for leisure.
When the R.C. Church attempted to rehabilitate More's reputation and made a martyr out of him most of his works,{and he wrote many}were distorted and glossed over by papist apologists.
Unrestrained capitalism is the real sin,not some barren spiritual concept which is the invention of men,all created to maintain the existing social order of the few over the many.