I'd say you do. Well done.

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i am pretty good at making change. does that count?

tom w

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LOL..

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Fight the good fight!......

Yep, but are you faster than the next guy?

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usually. seven years as a paper boy made me a permanently impressive change figurer.

my specialty is figuring out how to make it work when neither party has the correct amounts to make change and you have to pay extra so as to return an amount that will make it all wash.

i am usually ahead of the cash register.

tom w

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

As a paperboy, I had one of those metal change holders that attached to my belt and kicked out the change as I pushed a lever. Did you have one of those?

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I can just about do Algebra. Such a drag why learn such a useless subject in school.

Warren Buffett doesn't put much stock in it. Some professions need it but mine certainly does not.

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That's an interesting point. There are tens of thousands of students in the US struggling to pass College Algebra to meet a basic Math requirement. Most of them will never use those concepts again. But the will retain a basic resentment against Math and very likely pass it along to their children.

Is this a waste of valuable human resources?

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1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

no i just used one of those green cloth bags with the zipper on top. i always thought the change thingies looked pretty cool but i think i tried one once and found it too bulky.

my favorite thing was taking all the change to the bank and watching them run it through the change counter.

tom w

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

What the hell is rate of change?When I was 16 and dropped out of school I could measure and grind crank journals,C&C cylinders and calculate projected horsepower ratings,semi-size bottom end bearings and fit valve guides for engine rebuildings,also how to buy cheap and sell dear,so what is this rate of change and why would it affect me?

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kerry- thanks for the memory... i remember the bus driver having one of those..

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Maybe I am too practical but I look at what a college degree can get me in the market place. Math has no market value to me, I have no desire to design buildings or be an engineer.

I can understand and respect education for the sake of education. But still some people spend a lot of time working on these degrees then get stuck working at crummy jobs with people who never went to college.

To me that’s the value of college. I could turn my high school diploma into a very comfortable living working construction. College is very expensive and very time consuming, so I want to get something out of it.

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I've been on two Math search committees. The candidates had to explain, What is a limit?. That's two full days, 15 candidates lecturing on that topic.
It's amazing how many mathematicians can't explain rate of change.

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1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

That's not really fair is it? A philosopher querying a Mathematician about the notion of a limit? A Mathematician's standard answer to Zeno's paradox goes something like... "it's all solved with calculus." Trouble is, Zeno's paradox (and Heraclitus' too) is empirically shown to be false every single time we set something in motion, a la G.E. Moore's "plain man" philosophy. How do we know a hand exists? SLAP! There, it exists.

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I was playing the role of 'guy who doesn't teach Math' to see if I concurred that one or more of the candidates could explain an idea to the non-expert.
Turns out that on one of those committees, the candidate who stood out beyond all others, was a undergraduate Philosophy major who got a graduate degree in Math to make some money. He's become one of my best friends. He'd far prefer to discuss Moore's (unconvincing) argument than solve a Calculus problem.

As an aside, the English dept at our school came up with a great interview question that gives interesting insights into the candidates. "What famous historical figure (or 3 historical figures) would you invite to dinner and why? What would you serve?

The last time I was on a search committee (for an English professor) I talked them into including a famous scientist in the list. Believe it or not, there was a person with a graduate degree in English who could NOT name a famous scientist. This is an example of the kind of problem with which Bot is concerned.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13