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John Doe · #1 03-15-2007, 02:49 PM

Guys, let's have another discussion about this since I couldn't play last time. What happened is no different that has happened in the past towards the end of a Presidential term--Bush appoints new Republican US Atty's that will be ****canned by the new Democrat President in '08 BUT even this short stint as a US Atty puts another potential Republican Federal Judge out on the street--they literally refer to it as bench stacking. What is different, is that these folks blabbed it. The AG shouldn't have to resign over it, because his hypocritical critics know damn well that Bush wasn't the first Pres to do this. The stupid part was saying it was for performance--all he had to do was call them to Washington, tell them the score, line them up cushy jobs and everything would have been fine (trust me--this was how it was done in the past, specifically I can tell you with Clinton). For instance--Bush was so out of touch, they cited absence from the office on Iglesias. Said he had been absent more than any other US atty in the country--46 days. Guess where he was for 36 of those days........???????--Serving in the f'ing US Navy Reserve.

As for former US atty's automatically getting snapped up into mega-jobs, I don't think that is always the case (but certainly is a likley possibility). There are two former US attys that live in my neighborhood who are for the most part sole practicioners who primarily do plaintiff's work and occasionally represent white collar criminal defendants in Federal Court.

In closing

, I don't think Gonzales should have to resign over this issue, but his naivete in the way the whole thing went down makes him look pretty unqualified for the post, imo. That the dems are acting like this is unprecedented is utter BS--they did it too.

Dee8go · #2 03-15-2007, 03:45 PM

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. . . For instance--Bush was so out of touch, they cited absence from the office on Iglesias. Said he had been absent more than any other US atty in the country--46 days. Guess where he was for 36 of those days........???????--Serving in the f'ing US Navy Reserve.
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Oh, so he was BOATING!?

BENZ-LGB · #3 03-15-2007, 03:48 PM

John, you need to get to the sandbox earlier my friend.

Are those U.S. Attorneys that you are talking about? Or Assistant U.S. Attorneys?

Here in the Central District of California former U.S. Attorneys (not AUSA) do pretty darn well. They either end up with one of the big law firms or end up with another cushy political appointment.

BENZ-LGB · #4 03-15-2007, 03:49 PM

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Oh, so he was BOATING!?

Tough to do any significant boating in New Mexico.

Dee8go · #5 03-15-2007, 03:51 PM

Well, SURE, you've got to have a pretty good imagination . . .

BENZ-LGB · #6 03-15-2007, 04:07 PM

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Well, SURE, you've got to have a pretty good imagination . . .

Well, they do have some rivers and lakes....

Brian Carlton · #7 03-15-2007, 04:17 PM

What I find a bit unseemly about the entire issue is the fact that these fellows were originally appointed by the current administration, and, because they didn't bow to political pressure to follow the administration "line", they get $hitcanned. Their job performance is not considered and some of them had rather glowing comments in past performance reviews.

Whether it's common to Democrats or not is really irrelevant. The fact that an attorney general must tailor his daily workload to the politics of the current administration is just not appropriate, IMHO.

Hammertime · #8 03-15-2007, 04:19 PM

C'mon JD..we just finished putting out the flames on Benz-LGP and talked him in off the ledge and you go there again...sheez..what's next a avatar animation discussion?....

Botnst · #9 03-15-2007, 05:13 PM

I was too late to out the valiant flame, so would somebody please offer something so silly that I cannot help myself? I just Gotta do it.

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Hammertime · #10 03-15-2007, 05:15 PM

sure ..head over to the "what do you collect thread"....enjoy

Botnst · #11 03-15-2007, 05:23 PM

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sure ..head over to the "what do you collect thread"....enjoy

I collect navel lint, except at this time of year, when I collect novel lent.

Hammertime · #12 03-15-2007, 05:28 PM

I got an ashtray full of toenail chips...cheap...

Honus · #13 03-15-2007, 05:39 PM

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...That the dems are acting like this is unprecedented is utter BS--they did it too.

Really? They fired specific USAs who refused to prosecute members of the opposition or insisted on prosecuting members of their own party? And gave questionable testimony to Congress about it? And sent emails like the one quoted in the following piece from today's Washington Post?

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In testimony on Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Justice Department had no intention of avoiding Senate input on the hiring of U.S. attorneys.

Just a month earlier, D. Kyle Sampson, who was then Gonzales's chief of staff, laid out a plan to do just that. In an e-mail, he detailed a strategy for evading Arkansas Democrats in installing Tim Griffin, a former GOP operative and protege of presidential adviser Karl Rove, as the U.S. attorney in Little Rock.

"We should gum this to death," Sampson wrote to a White House aide on Dec. 19. "[A]sk the senators to give Tim a chance . . . then we can tell them we'll look for other candidates, ask them for recommendations, evaluate the recommendations, interview their candidates, and otherwise run out the clock. All of this should be done in 'good faith,' of course."...

That last sentence is just classic. It's as if these people have given up all pretense of integrity.