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Old 03-15-2007, 08:48 PM
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Might be the truth.

Why New Orleans Went Under--A Black Man's Comments
Carefully read the whole article. You'll be amazed at this guy!!!

I don't know the man who wrote this, but I looked at his picture and read it with my mouth hanging open. He says things here that no white man could ever write and keep his job as a writer, and he speaks the truth.

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 -Moral poverty cost blacks in New Orleans - 1:00 a.m. Eastern

Bill Cosby said the same thing and nearly got lynched.

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:

What would you do?

What would you do if you were black?

Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.

To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would return to help others in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the like.

For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you'll probably wait for the government to save you.

This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of the community. Then local government would come in.

No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good results.

Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on "racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans, above and beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in America, "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will end up.

Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government, they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform legally and practically fell first on the mayor of New Orleans. We are now all familiar with Mayor Ray Nagin the black Democrat who likes to yell at President Bush for failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's wailing. As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show [Nagin] failed to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no way to evacuate the city."

One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by now the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor Nagin?

Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution from Democratic Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining New Orleans residents into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan turned out.

About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within 10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos, rampant with theft, rape and murder.

President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New Orleans' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive for themselves.

All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty not their material poverty that cost them dearly inNew Orleans. Farrakhan, Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated for they will only perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral corruption. New Orleans, to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligated to help themselves and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to tell them so.


The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the Black Leadership Exploits Black America."

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Old 03-15-2007, 09:17 PM
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Jesse Lee Peterson has been giving Jackson et al "what for" for years. He is brutally honest and I wish the guy could get a wider audience...although he has been on Hannity's show and some others I believe.

I think America would be much better off if we'd all listen to and heed this Jesse, and not the other.


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Old 03-15-2007, 09:32 PM
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it is never that simple.

it is easy to blame the victims. this was the knee jerk reaction to the defenders of our president.

just because this guy is black doesn't make what he says any more true than a white person saying it.

he has a message to get out. come to his church and get moral.

most of the folks left behind just didnt have enough going right for themselves to get out. pure and simple. no car. most probably did not believe there was true danger. if you live your entire life below sea level and no storm has ever breached the levee why would you believe this one will? the entire system broke down. the law. public transportation. everything. this was an unprecedented natural (and partially man made) disaster.

it is too easy just to blame the victims.

like many things there is some truth in his article. that does not make it a truthful assessment.

my father used to say..."all lies are based on fact".

that includes this one.

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Old 03-15-2007, 10:18 PM
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Exclamation *** Katrina Query... ***

I can't remember exactly, but wasn't Katrina a Cat. 5, or Cat. 4 Huricane?

Like the spot that runs on TV lately (The one with the train heading towards the camera, the guy standing in front of the camera saying, "I'm not worried..." and he moves and the little girl that was standing behind him is still on the tracks...) putting the blame on everyone else for not stopping the train or moving the little girl - Why don't you help the little girl yourself?

And as the Weather Channel was telling the nation and the world - "Bad, bad things are going to happen to NO..." Was it just me, or didn't anyone else NOTICE THAT WATER TAKES THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE...LIKE DOWN INTO A HOLE, IF THE HOLE IS THERE?????

Who gave JJ, AS and Nagin the power of Moses? Last time I looked it up, it was God, and he doesn't like to share. Moses got it, 100%.

No Moses, you're screwed.

Time to pack and run like hell!

And what was done during those few days when there was a chance to get out of Dodge? Nagin managed to stay safe, didn't he? Why didn't he head up the programs? 'Cause he was busy pointing fingers and laying a carpet of blame when things would go wrong and he wanted to cover his own a55.

Anyone with two cents of gray-matter between their ears (and not blowing it out of their mouths) would understand that FEMA COMES IN AFTER A DISASTER AND HELPS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OUT.

NOT THE OTHER FRIKEN' WAY AROUND!

Let JJ, AS and Nagin show everyone what a55es they are by making sound-bites for two-bit "news" operations. Most of what "passed" as "news" down there actually was second/third-hand related stories passed along as fact, when the real truth was ignored because it "...didn't bleed enough..." IMHO, the "news" (or what passes as "news") is really a gossip-whore. Nothing is checked for facts and confirmed before it hits the air. But that's another story in itself.

Katrina was a major screw-up from the word "GO" - the infrastructure didn't exist in NO, even before "day one." NO was Nagin's, the state's and the city's fault...no one else.

If the REAL people of NO need the government to hold their hands, wipe their tears and a55es and kiss their boo-boos and a55es, then you folks might as well sit down and rewrite the history books while you're at it and admit that the North did do the right thing and run NO properly after the Civil War with the reconstruction. At least then, maybe the 'gobment' down there will be able to figure out who can tell them which end the hat goes on and where the paperwork belongs.

What Bush did wrong was this: He didn't hold ANYONE accountable for the f**kups before, during and after. Ron Brown? He's the little girl on the tracks. More like the deer in the headlights. The National Guard needed a "STK" order (Martial Law - FED. Style) and the attitude of "Get off your a55 and start fixing instead of blaming...

Instead, crap piles up and nobody is doing anything to make it better.

But, they got their TVs and radios tuned into the "Blame Game" and wondering if their neightbors are going to be the next contestants.

Gooooood luck the lot of them...they need each other.
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:42 AM
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it is never that simple.

it is easy to blame the victims. this was the knee jerk reaction to the defenders of our president.

just because this guy is black doesn't make what he says any more true than a white person saying it.

he has a message to get out. come to his church and get moral.

most of the folks left behind just didnt have enough going right for themselves to get out. pure and simple. no car. most probably did not believe there was true danger. if you live your entire life below sea level and no storm has ever breached the levee why would you believe this one will? the entire system broke down. the law. public transportation. everything. this was an unprecedented natural (and partially man made) disaster.

it is too easy just to blame the victims.

like many things there is some truth in his article. that does not make it a truthful assessment.

my father used to say..."all lies are based on fact".

that includes this one.

tom w
I have never seen a study of who needed rescuing and why. The 300-400 that I helped rescue were mostly black people and a couple dozen whites. The city WAS around 70-80% black. Many of the whites in NOLA were middle class or wealthy. Some were on welfare. Most of the blacks were not middle class and very, very few were wealthy. Most were receiving some form of assistance.

Of the black people that I picked up many were dumber than a stump. I'm betting that the blacks with any sense had already gotten the heck out of there. Many of the blacks were apparently totally disoriented, as though they'd never really been out of their neighborhood. Many of the whites I picked-up appeared (to me) to be junkies getting sick from lack of heroin. The other whites were quite a lot like the blacks, dumber than a stump and bewildered by life.

I saw NOLA police looting rather than helping people. I saw citizens looting rather than leaving. We picked up a woman with two pre-teen kids who were chest-deep in that awful looking water with armloads of toys and clothes and cosmetics. They just wanted a boat ride back to their home, which we gave them. Their home was raised 3-4 ft above ground level and had a couple of inches of water inside. We searched for and entered one home based on a 911 call to look for and elderly couple. The house had been broken into and had that dreadful odor. The elderly couple were inside, the lady supine on the couch as though napping and the man in his Lazy Boy. Both dead for several days, I think.

Lots of stories with neither beginning nor end. People need an explanation and the one they get seems unsatisfactory because, IMO, we want a culprit as large as the disaster. Instead, the culprit is time, resources and total breakdown of local authority. IMO.

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Old 03-16-2007, 08:00 AM
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i admire anybody who helped in the rescue.

i appreciate your first hand observations. it sounds exactly how i would expect it to.

no one big person or entity to blame. plenty of blame to go around. a lot of folks not paying attention to what now is (obviously and in retrospect) a huge danger to them. as you note....total breakdown.

thanks again.

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