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View Poll Results: Do you think NASCAR races are "fixed"?
Yes, NASCAR throws yellow flags to control the outcome 25 65.79%
No, the best driver/car/team usually wins 13 34.21%
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:55 PM
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Remember NASCAR is a business NOTHING more.


I want to do a class action.

Stock Car is there any part in those cars that is remotely stock.

Hey one race every car was running a Ford rear end !!!

Note, I do enjoy watching it though !!

I think they need to return to their roots.
1 set of tires, rain or shine, heck pump their own gas !!!
Oh and max amount of gas per race, maybe 10 mpg minimum
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:59 PM
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Fixed,,, no way. Would like to fix,,,, maybe. Too many variables to fix a race with 43 competitors. If it were fixed Kurt Bush would never have won a championship,,, too many people hate him.
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:39 PM
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Is 43 mostly the identical cars doing a bunch of left turns in a tight pack really even racing?

They are not even imaginably close to "stock" cars anymore, they are choked by lots of rules made to slow them down, they run antiquated carbureted engines and some tracks still use leaded gasoline.
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:45 PM
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I don't really care its a lame form of racing. The cars are 50 year old technoligy, and don't really do anything. Its like watching the traffic camra on I95 in fast forward.
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Old 04-30-2007, 12:55 AM
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I don't really care its a lame form of racing. The cars are 50 year old technoligy, and don't really do anything. Its like watching the traffic camra on I95 in fast forward.
I'm not a NASCAR fan by ANY means....

But I had a chance to drive a number of laps in an actual stock car at Talladega speedway, and after experiencing it for myself, I can testify that they ARE powerful, scary cars, and at 170+ mph, a LOT of skill and concentration is required to keep them moving in the desired direction. The tiniest little bump or imperfection in the track feels HUGE. Fun, but also scary.

And I was the only car on the track, for the most part!

I can't imagine how insane it must be when you're surrounded by 20 or 30 other cars at that speed, all trying their best to get past you!

After the experience, I'm STILL not a fan of that type of racing... It bores me to watch it... But I now have a LOT of new-found respect for the driving skill involved. It may look like they are merely driving arond in circles, but they are also driving their a$$es off.

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Old 05-02-2007, 11:57 AM
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I'm not a NASCAR fan by ANY means....

But I had a chance to drive a number of laps in an actual stock car at Talladega speedway, and after experiencing it for myself, I can testify that they ARE powerful, scary cars, and at 170+ mph, a LOT of skill and concentration is required to keep them moving in the desired direction. The tiniest little bump or imperfection in the track feels HUGE. Fun, but also scary.

And I was the only car on the track, for the most part!

I can't imagine how insane it must be when you're surrounded by 20 or 30 other cars at that speed, all trying their best to get past you!

After the experience, I'm STILL not a fan of that type of racing... It bores me to watch it... But I now have a LOT of new-found respect for the driving skill involved. It may look like they are merely driving arond in circles, but they are also driving their a$$es off.

Mike
I echo this post and agree completely--but my experience was at Charlotte.
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:50 PM
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i dont think they necessarily try to fix each race. but the gratuitous cautions affect the racing and often the outcome. i think they just want to provide a great show.

i think on occasion they are not above conspiring to allow one person to win over another.

like after dale's death i always felt that junior and michael were given a better plate. quite likely without their knowledge.

and they never did anything to dale for wrecking folks. and nobody ever retaliated against him so i always figured that they felt they would be penalized if they did.

i hate the plate races. they should knock down the banking and throw the plates away!

the plates killed dale. pure and simple.

i was not a dale fan.

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Old 04-26-2007, 10:56 PM
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Bores me to death, plain and simple! I used to watch Wide World of Sports in the 70's just to watch wrecks during races, haven't sat down and watched a race since. I did take my kids to a 1/2 mile dirt track last summer...now that was racing. We got dirt in our hair, were damn near deaf afterward, but they had a ball. Some scary, backward people at that track too, I suspect the demographics at a NASCAR race are similar.
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Old 04-27-2007, 04:38 AM
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i dont think they necessarily try to fix each race. but the gratuitous cautions affect the racing and often the outcome. i think they just want to provide a great show.
my $.02

tom w
Could'nt agree more with this. It's all about the show.
NASCAR is to auto racing
what WWF is to Olympic wrestling
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:11 AM
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as a former high school and for a short while college wrestler i cannot begin to watch the wwf stuff.

nascar isnt that bad yet but they are leaning that way for sure.

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