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Old 05-01-2007, 12:37 PM
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Have you wondered why we need to go back to the moon?

Russia sees moon plot in Nasa plans


By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow

Last Updated: 3:37am BST 01/05/2007





Mankind's second race for the moon took on a distinctly Cold War feel yesterday when the Russian space agency accused its old rival Nasa of rejecting a proposal for joint lunar exploration.
The claim comes amid suspicion in Moscow that the United States is seeking to deny Russia access to an isotope in abundance under the moon's surface that many believe could replace fossil fuels and even end the threat of global warming.
The moon could supply our future energy needs

A new era of international co-operation in space supposedly dawned after the United States, Russia and other powers declared their intention to send humans to the moon for the first time since 1972.
But while Nasa has lobbied for support from Britain and the European Space Agency, Russia claims its offers have been rebuffed.
Yesterday Anatoly Perminov, the head of Russia's Federal Space Agency Roscosmos, said: "We are ready to co-operate but for some reason the United States has announced that it will carry out the programme itself. Strange as it is, the United States is short of experts to implement the programme."
Nasa announced in December that it was planning to build an international base camp on one of the Moon's poles, permanently staffing it by 2024. Russia's space rocket manufacturer Energia revealed an even more ambitious programme last August, saying it would build a permanent Moon base by 2015.
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While the Americans have either been coy or dismissive on the subject, Russia openly says the main purpose of its lunar programme is the industrial extraction of helium-3.
Dismissed by critics as a 21st-century equivalent of the medieval alchemist's fruitless quest to turn lead into gold, some scientists say helium-3 could be the answer to the world's energy woes.
A non-radioactive isotope of helium, helium-3 is a proven and potent fuel for nuclear fusion - so potent that just six metric tons would supply Britain with enough energy for a year.
As helium-3 is non-polluting and is so effective in such tiny quantities, many countries are taking it very seriously. Germany, India and China, which will launch a lunar probe to research extraction techniques in September, are all studying ways to mine the isotope.
"Whoever conquers the moon first will be the first to benefit," said Ouyang Ziyuan, the chief scientist of China's lunar programme.
Energia says it will start "industrial scale delivery" of helium-3, transported by cargo space ships via the International Space Station, no later than 2020. Gazprom, the state-owned energy giant directly controlled by the Kremlin, is said to be strongly supportive of the project.
The United States has appeared much more cautious, not least because scientists are yet to discover the secrets of large scale nuclear fusion. Commercial fusion reactors look unlikely to come on line before the second half of this century.
But many officials in Moscow's space programme believe Washington's lunar agenda is driven by a desire to monopolise helium-3 mining. They allege that President Bush has moved helium-3 experts into key positions on Nasa's advisory council.
The plot, says Erik Galimov, an academic with the Russian Academy of Sciences, would "enable the US to establish its control of the energy market 20 years from now and put the rest of the world on its knees as hydrocarbons run out."

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Old 05-01-2007, 01:37 PM
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go back? we never went
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:42 PM
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...The plot, says Erik Galimov, an academic with the Russian Academy of Sciences, would "enable the US to establish its control of the energy market 20 years from now and put the rest of the world on its knees as hydrocarbons run out."
What's so bad about that?
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:54 PM
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1. A new Star Trek plot.
2. Go back and pick up the trash we left on the surface.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:22 PM
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What's so bad about that?
I'm wundrin why were waitin till 2025, lets blast off or start makin more of that helium-3 here on earth.

On that note I wonder what the expense would be to mine it on the moon vs made in the USA?

If this stuff is that precious maybe the moon will be the next battle ground and that 1 square inch I own will be worth something.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:51 PM
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By the time 2025 comes around, they will have found some other alternative. It won't have to be quite as potent as He3, it just has to be potent enough to make going to the moon economically unjustifiable.
On the other hand, if mankind is still considering going to other planets such as Mars, then the moon would be a good starting point.

Is it just me, or have the Russians gotten a little weird lately?

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