PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/index.php)
-   Off-Topic Discussion (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
-   -   Tenet's book Reviewed (http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=187576)

Medmech 05-07-2007 07:00 PM

Quote:

I'm sorry. I was taught to understand that IF you have a job in a highly classified area of government (CIA-FBI-NSI) you didn't let anyone know you had a hightly classified job in the government, AND YOU DON'T LET EVERY TOM, DICK AND HARRY KNOW ABOUT IT... :mad:

And if you happen to be the face of the organization (Bush41, Tenet, Hoover), then you don't go writing books about your organization. :mad:
yip, I wonder why they get away with it.

t walgamuth 05-07-2007 07:19 PM

because they are breaking no law?

tom w

Medmech 05-07-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 1500651)
because they are breaking no law?

tom w

What is happening to Scooter Libby?

Your basic response is noted and expected, if you had knowledge about how the classification system worked you would have had a sharper reply.

mgburg 05-07-2007 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 1500651)
because they are breaking no law?
tom w

I don't know...maybe because I was expecting some ETHICS in the intel business...NO WAIT! We're talking government here!

Sorry. I forgot. That's a subject for Business & Law-Schools and their graduates...to ignore.

My bad.

:P

GermanStar 05-07-2007 07:32 PM

Anyone ever see the movie Hopscotch? :D

GermanStar 05-07-2007 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgburg (Post 1500673)
I don't know...maybe because I was expecting some ETHICS in the intel business...NO WAIT! We're talking government here!

Sorry. I forgot. That's a subject for Business & Law-Schools and their graduates...to ignore.

My bad.

:P

It all starts at the top, doesn't it? I'm not defending Tenet, but it wasn't Tenet who sold out one of his agents, now was it? Tenet just strikes me as one of the crowd, no better or worse than the rest of the current administration.

GermanStar 05-07-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kookookachoo (Post 1500665)
What is happening to Scooter Libby?

Your basic response is noted and expected, if you had knowledge about how the classification system worked you would have had a sharper reply.

Libby is being given a good long time to think about selling out his boss, which of course he won't do, as he anticipates his presidential pardon. I believe he'll be sentenced next month, if memory serves...

BENZ-LGB 05-07-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgburg (Post 1500673)
I don't know...maybe because I was expecting some ETHICS in the intel business...NO WAIT! We're talking government here!

Sorry. I forgot. That's a subject for Business & Law-Schools and their graduates...to ignore.

My bad.

:P

Hey watch that!

I am a "government lawyer." I am willing to put my ethical standards against ANYONE's ethical standards.

You need to distinguish between the career people like me who do all the hard work and the pols who are just what the word implies...political animals.

Otherwise, I agree with your comments in post #15.

Medmech 05-07-2007 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermanStar (Post 1500686)
Libby is being given a good long time to think about selling out his boss, which of course he won't do, as he anticipates his presidential pardon. I believe he'll be sentenced next month, if memory serves...

I think there is a difference between sell out and fall guy.

Most people in gov do not have standards or ethics; thats how they roll.

t walgamuth 05-07-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kookookachoo (Post 1500665)
What is happening to Scooter Libby?

Your basic response is noted and expected, if you had knowledge about how the classification system worked you would have had a sharper reply.

i have no specific knowledge of the laws concerning these folks and their jobs, but do you seriously believe that a man of this level would release a book without having a lawyer vet it first to eleminate anything he might be prosecuted for? let alone lose retirement bennies.

perhaps if scooter had written a book instead of what he did he would not be in the position he is in.

i think it is naive to believe that this man is getting away with something simply because he is in disagreement with the current administration and has written a book telling his viewpoint of it and has not as yet been prosecuted.

tom w

Botnst 05-07-2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kookookachoo (Post 1500634)
yip, I wonder why they get away with it.

The same as for any disclosure of people who are sworn in: They are prohibited from revealing personnel, means, and methods. Any speaking engagement or publication must be approved by the responsible agency. That most definitely includes book manuscripts, which is what got Tenet's predecessor, Duetsch, in trouble when he brought classified material home on his hard drive to write his memoirs, IIRC. Duetsch was an even more embarrassing doofus but fortunately, unable to impact anything. I cannot image the damage he'd have done had he been in charge on 9/11.

The process for approval is in the public domain.

B

mgburg 05-07-2007 11:52 PM

*** Mea culpa! ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB (Post 1500687)
Hey watch that!
I am a "government lawyer." I am willing to put my ethical standards against ANYONE's ethical standards.
You need to distinguish between the career people like me who do all the hard work and the pols who are just what the word implies...political animals.
Otherwise, I agree with your comments in post #15.


Sorry 'bout that Benz-LGB! ;) I was thinking of you as I typed it up...that's the problem when you go after a "certain" group of bad apples...the good ones always get mixed in the same barrel. :shame:

I'll offer the apology when I see the damage is about to over-flow onto the innocent!

:P

LaRondo 05-08-2007 06:11 AM

I think it's great to have a book like this published. Good for us.

Nevermind the messenger.

Botnst 05-08-2007 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaRondo (Post 1501076)
I think it's great to have a book like this published. Good for us.

Nevermind the messenger.

Never mind the messenger ... of an autobiography? :dizzy2:

BENZ-LGB 05-08-2007 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 1501093)
Never mind the messenger ... of an autobiography? :dizzy2:

Excellent point...:pleased:


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:38 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website