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Old 05-10-2007, 11:03 PM
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i am sure there are quite a few folks out there who would agree completely with the poster.

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Old 05-10-2007, 11:05 PM
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White House Rebuts Guard Shortage Claim
Associated Press | May 09, 2007
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration and Kansas' governor started Tuesday pointing fingers at each other over the response to last week's devastating tornado. By lunchtime, both sides had backed down.

With President Bush set to travel to now-razed Greensburg, Kan., on Wednesday to view the destruction wrought by Friday's 205 mph twister, Democratic Gov. Kathleen Sebelius said she planned to talk with him about her contention that National Guard deployments to Iraq hampered the disaster response.

"I don't think there is any question if you are missing trucks, Humvees and helicopters that the response is going to be slower," she said Monday. "The real victims here will be the residents of Greensburg, because the recovery will be at a slower pace."

Sebelius said that with other states facing similar limitations, "stuff that we would have borrowed is gone."

White House press secretary Tony Snow fought back aggressively.

In an approach reminiscent of the blame game played by the White House with another Democratic governor, Kathleen Blanco of Louisiana, after the federal government's botched response to Hurricane Katrina, Snow at first said the fault for any slow response would be Sebelius'. He said she should have followed procedure by finding gaps and then asking the federal government to fill them - but didn't.

"If you don't request it, you're not going to get it," he told reporters Tuesday morning.

Snow said no one had asked for heavy equipment. "As far as we know, the only thing the governor has requested are FM radios," the spokesman said.

Well, not exactly.

At Snow's second, midday briefing with reporters, he offered that it turned out that the state had requested several items that the federal government supplied - those radios, and also a mobile command center and a mobile office building, an urban search and rescue team and coordination on extra Black Hawk helicopters.

Snow recounted a phone conversation on Tuesday between Sebelius and Bush's White House-based homeland security adviser, Fran Townsend, in which the governor said she was pleased with the federal performance on the tornado and had everything she needed.

About the same time, Sebelius was doing her own backpedal from across the country.

Her spokeswoman, Nicole Corcoran, said the governor didn't mean to imply that the state was ill-equipped to deal with this storm. Sebelius' comments about National Guard equipment were, instead, meant as a warning about the state's inability to handle additional disasters, such as another tornado or severe flooding, she said.

"We are doing absolutely fine right now," Corcoran said. "What the governor is talking about is down the road."

Sebelius has long spoken out about the fallout from sending National Guard units and equipment overseas. She says the war in Iraq is damaging domestic disaster readiness, because needed manpower is drained from states and the Pentagon is not replacing equipment at a fast enough rate.

Sebelius said she asked the Pentagon in December to replenish lost resources. She also said she spoke about the issue at great length with Bush when he was in Kansas in January 2006, and that Bush assured her that the money for replacements was in his budget.

Snow said the president recognizes there is a need to relieve pressure on the National Guard, and that it is one of the main reasons Bush has called for expanding the overall size of the military. But he also said that, regardless, there still are sizable numbers of personnel and equipment around the country ready to respond to disasters.

"If you take a look at the way the National Guard units are dispersed, you still have considerable strength in each state," he said.
blame the victims. this administrations pat answer.

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Old 05-10-2007, 11:16 PM
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That's a reasonable question. I have no idea about the stats involved, but the military is trying to expand it's active duty, reserves, and national guard forces, simultaneously while at war. In order to meet the new goals it has relaxed it's peacetime standards that were set very high because they didn't need lots of manpower. Now they do. So now they take recruits who have a minor criminal past and have not completed high school. In that expanded cohort there will be some people who get through taht will make poor soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen. Probably significant more than before the expansion and before the war. Thus, there will be a greater number who get in trouble and who get booted out.

Despite all of that, the retention (re-enlistment rate) among e-5 and above is still very high. What does that mean? It means that men & women who know the score, who have already served at least 3-4 years, are staying in the military. Also, the military academies have not dropped standards and junior officer retention is high.

What do these facts tell us?

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i heard a report just this morning on NPR that suggests that the military is concerned with retention of captains. they are offering 20k bonus for guys re signing. the person being interviewed suggested that 20 k would not cut much mustard with captains who fear dying or getting maimed in iraq. he said the captains look to the future and see redeployment after redeployment to iraq until they become a casualty and think that it is a good time to get out.

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Old 05-10-2007, 11:40 PM
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i heard a report just this morning on NPR that suggests that the military is concerned with retention of captains. they are offering 20k bonus for guys re signing. the person being interviewed suggested that 20 k would not cut much mustard with captains who fear dying or getting maimed in iraq. he said the captains look to the future and see redeployment after redeployment to iraq until they become a casualty and think that it is a good time to get out.

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Army & Marine captains have the most difficult officer's job in combat. To be effective, they must lead by example. That means lead from in in front, not by telephone. if some knucklehead screws-up, their necks are on the block right along with the knucklehead's. And the pay, though nice, isn't that great even with bonuses. Especially when you consider that they are the #1 prime target for every sniper with a grudge and every court martial looking for a victim. Despite the huge risk, those people still show up for work.

In the particular case you reference, it might be useful to know that the O3/O4 rank is a transitional period for officers. At that paygrade they make a decision whether to pursue the armed forces as a career or whether to seek civilian employment. Thus, it should not be surprising that in a military that is ramping-up it's personnel that there would be a shortage in the junior officer grades. It takes much, much longer to ramp-up officers than it does enlisted personnel. Officers mostly have completed a bachelor's degree or better and at a minimum, they must have passed the OCS training -- not a snap course.

So let's take the Citadel class of 2004 as an example. In 2004 the Pentagon decided they needed to increase the number of uniformed personnel in all branches. Immediately, they begin recruiting civilians and in 10 weeks they have a newly minted soldier. But it takes perhaps 4 years after 2004 before the first increase in officers hits the ground. Meanwhile, the enlisted portion grows and attrition in the junior officers continues. Even though the numbers of officers is relatively unchanged year-to-year, the need for officers has outpaced recruiting and retention. It will take at least another year and likely another 2 years before the service academies and ROTC is able to catch-up with the expansion needs. Combine that with the average retention rate and you'll end-up with a significant officer deficit for several years.

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The obvious career path is to get out and become a Halliburton or KBR contractor. Big money tax free and no rules of engagement.

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