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Old 09-27-2007, 07:12 PM
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Further Proof that the Iranian Govt. is Whacked

What are these guys smoking.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/story/4043978p-4651763c.html

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Old 09-27-2007, 07:16 PM
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Canadians are too damn polite to respond to that cretinous bastard as he deserves.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:46 PM
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I knew it!

I always knew Canada to be a horribly repressive police state, what with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps running thing... oh wait That is Iran...
Who is doing the head cracking up North? The National Curling Team? no no no the NHL, how stupid I was not to realize that!
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:21 AM
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Check out this, really funny! There are people in this country who can't even tell the year 9/11 happened!

The dumbing down of America seems to be successful!!

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Old 09-28-2007, 04:56 AM
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^^^ I know exactly what you mean: Some folks are so dumb they can't even stay on topic after a handful of posts.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:59 AM
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Canadians are too damn polite to respond to that cretinous bastard as he deserves.
Very polite!

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Old 09-28-2007, 05:01 AM
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^^^ I know exactly what you mean: Some folks are so dumb they can't even stay on topic after a handful of posts.
No. Actually it means that some folks in this country appear dumber than whacked.
Or should I say, dumb enough not to realize when they are being whacked?
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:07 AM
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Iranian University Chancellors Ask Bollinger 10 Questions
TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Seven chancellors and presidents of Iranian universities and research centers, in a letter addressed to their counterpart in the US Colombia University, denounced Lee Bollinger's insulting words against the Iranian nation and president and invited him to provide responses for 10 questions of the Iranian academicians and intellectuals.


The following is the full text of the letter.

Mr. Lee Bollinger
Columbia University President

We, the professors and heads of universities and research institutions in Tehran , hereby announce our displeasure and protest at your impolite remarks prior to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's recent speech at Columbia University.

We would like to inform you that President Ahmadinejad was elected directly by the Iranian people through an enthusiastic two-round poll in which almost all of the country's political parties and groups participated. To assess the quality and nature of these elections you may refer to US news reports on the poll dated June 2005.

Your insult, in a scholarly atmosphere, to the president of a country with a population of 72 million and a recorded history of 7,000 years of civilization and culture is deeply shameful.

Your comments, filled with hate and disgust, may well have been influenced by extreme pressure from the media, but it is regrettable that media policy-makers can determine the stance a university president adopts in his speech.

Your remarks about our country included unsubstantiated accusations that were the product of guesswork as well as media propaganda. Some of your claims result from misunderstandings that can be clarified through dialogue and further research.

During his speech, Mr. Ahmadinejad answered a number of your questions and those of students. We are prepared to answer any remaining questions in a scientific, open and direct debate.

You asked the president approximately ten questions. Allow us to ask you ten of our own questions in the hope that your response will help clear the atmosphere of misunderstanding and distrust between our two countries and reveal the truth.

1- Why did the US media put you under so much pressure to prevent Mr. Ahmadinejad from delivering his speech at Columbia University? And why have American TV networks been broadcasting hours of news reports insulting our president while refusing to allow him the opportunity to respond? Is this not against the principle of freedom of speech?

2- Why, in 1953, did the US administration overthrow the Iran's national government under Dr Mohammad Mosaddegh and go on to support the Shah's dictatorship?

3- Why did the US support the blood-thirsty dictator Saddam Hussein during the 1980-88 Iraqi-imposed war on Iran, considering his reckless use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers defending their land and even against his own people?

4- Why is the US putting pressure on the government elected by the majority of Palestinians in Gaza instead of officially recognizing it? And why does it oppose Iran 's proposal to resolve the 60-year-old Palestinian issue through a general referendum?

5- Why has the US military failed to find Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden even with all its advanced equipment? How do you justify the old friendship between the Bush and Bin Laden families and their cooperation on oil deals? How can you justify the Bush administration's efforts to disrupt investigations concerning the September 11 attacks?

6- Why does the US administration support the Mujahedin Khalq Organization (MKO) despite the fact that the group has officially and openly accepted the responsibility for numerous deadly bombings and massacres in Iran and Iraq? Why does the US refuse to allow Iran 's current government to act against the MKO's main base in Iraq?

7- Was the US invasion of Iraq based on international consensus and did international institutions support it? What was the real purpose behind the invasion which has claimed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives? Where are the weapons of mass destruction that the US claimed were being stockpiled in Iraq?

8- Why do America's closest allies in the Middle East come from extremely undemocratic governments with absolutist monarchical regimes?

9- Why did the US oppose the plan for a Middle East free of unconventional weapons in the recent session of the International Atomic Energy Agency Board of Governors despite the fact the move won the support of all members other than Israel?

10- Why is the US displeased with Iran's agreement with the IAEA and why does it openly oppose any progress in talks between Iran and the agency to resolve the nuclear issue under international law?

Finally, we would like to express our readiness to invite you and other scientific delegations to our country. A trip to Iran would allow you and your colleagues to speak directly with Iranians from all walks of life including intellectuals and university scholars. You could then assess the realities of Iranian society without media censorship before making judgments about the Iranian nation and government.

You can be assured that Iranians are very polite and hospitable toward their guests.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:55 AM
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^^^ I know exactly what you mean: Some folks are so dumb they can't even stay on topic after a handful of posts.
Sorry, I thought esp. you would enjoy a little variety in the thread.

According to the following excerpt paragraph, Iran's presentation doesn't look so whacked after all. More like a startegic punch under the belt line.

"It may well (win Iran support), and Canada will have to stand in the General Assembly and explain its position," said Max Morrison, a former Canadian diplomat at the UN who is now president of the Canadian Institute of Strategic Studies.


Ps. What is so bothersome around here, is the kind of thinking that it is always the others who are 'whacked' and 'dumb'.
I describe this attitude as 'the root of ingnorance', which usually and inevitably leads to a rude awaking. At one point or another.

In your case, Mr B, you carry a lot of potential. I just don't understand why you waste the bigger portion of it on supporting the 'dumbing down process' of this country.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:07 AM
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2- Why, in 1953, did the US administration overthrow the Iran's national government under Dr Mohammad Mosaddegh and go on to support the Shah's dictatorship?

8- Why do America's closest allies in the Middle East come from extremely undemocratic governments with absolutist monarchical regimes?

Always wondered about this, Pakistan comes readily to mind.
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:27 AM
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2- Why, in 1953, did the US administration overthrow the Iran's national government under Dr Mohammad Mosaddegh and go on to support the Shah's dictatorship?
To have a means of influence in the region. Balance of power theory at work.

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Because there are no democracies in the Middle East?
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Old 09-28-2007, 12:07 PM
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^^^ Badda-boom!
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:36 PM
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And now for something completely different. Actually, back on topic.

What do you think Canadian torture is comprised of?

I think one particularly nasty one would be to be forced to drink warm Moosehead beer.

77,000 cans went missing recently. Clearly a stockpile to be used for torture. Damn you Bush.... er, Harper!
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Old 09-28-2007, 09:53 PM
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So how do the torture people in Canada? Make them eat their pancakes without maple syrup? Those evil SOB's!
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:22 PM
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So how do the torture people in Canada? Make them eat their pancakes without maple syrup? Those evil SOB's!
Exactly, what exactly is the Canadian govt. doing to torture people and/or violate their human rights. Meanwhile, the whack job government in Iran is hanging gays for being gay, stoning woman for sexual trysts (both real and imagined) and imprisoning and torturing visiting scholars. Clearly the govt. in Iran has lost all touch with reality.

And yes, the Canadian govt. will have to answer the charges in the UN. But any government can accuse any other government of anything, the accusation alone does not lend any credence to the charges. And no matter how whacked out the accusing government is, the accused will have to answer the charges. Frankly, the Canadian foreign minister should have told the islamofacist government in Iran to go "F" themselves.

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