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Wodnek 10-18-2007 08:49 PM
I would recommend the HP 1020. We have about a dozen at work. Durable, quick and at inkforever.com you can get the toners for $35. Only downside is no warning light when toner starts running low. Plus if you watch the sales they often go for $99.

Palangi 10-18-2007 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels (Post 1650750)
If I were you I would go on ebay and find a Laserjet III or Laserjet4. The new stuff HP is putting out is not as good as the old stuff. my old LJ IIIP is a great printer (I used to sell them back in the '90s) but it cost well over a thousand bucks. It was also made in California and is built like a tank. It must weigh 30 pounds.

Fast forward to today. I have a consulting customer who just bought five HP 1022 laserjets. They are garbage. They are made in China and must weigh 3 pounds. She has had to send two of them back and the remaining three originals are getting worse with everyday. Carly really messed up HP.

To tell you the truth, I don't know what new printer to recommend.
I have a 9 year old Rx80i multifunction printer/scanner/FAX and I love it. I also bought a new one three years ago that is another hunk of junk.

No offense to anybody who loves HP, but I can't recommend them.
HP II, III, 4 Series were commercial grade machines, made to last 5 to 10 years of hard use, and priced accordingly. HP 10_ _ Series are home office machines, made for 2 years of light duty, and priced accordingly.

IOW, you get what you pay for.

Unfortunately, nobody makes 10 year printers anymore. If they did, nobody would buy one in today's market.

bustedbenz 10-18-2007 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 1650787)
Unfortunately, nobody makes 10 year printers anymore. If they did, nobody would buy one in today's market.
Just like cars. And toasters and microwaves and stoves and kitchen sinks and VCRs and DVD players and TVs and computers and... :cry:

300EVIL 10-18-2007 11:00 PM
I've had an HP4 since the early 90's I don't use it anymore due to my newest toys.... You should see what I have in my basement! :eek::D It's like a printing company down there. Anyway, The HP 3 and 4 models are very dependable and cheap to maintain. Drum units will typically last 3 toner refills if your really thrifty and use good paper. If you want I can get you in contact with a wholesaler that will sell you a working HP 3 or 4 for around $30 plus shipping. Don't expect any warranty or customer support though.

If your looking for something networkable with cost effective consumables and can copy as well, send me a PM and I'll set you up.

300EVIL 10-18-2007 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 1650787)
Unfortunately, nobody makes 10 year printers anymore. If they did, nobody would buy one in today's market.
Actually you'd be amazed. Very little on a copier or a printer wears out. The only thing that gets better/changes is the connectivity. Parallel, USB, Ethernet, WiFi. Anything over 600 DPI is a waste. As long as consumables are still avalable and you don't abuse the thing they last forever. I've seen copiers older than me still pumping out prints like the day they were new. Admittedly the newer copiers and printers have a lot more plastic in them than the older units but they still last forever. I've seen copiers come in with 20 million copies and run just fine. They usually look like $h!+ though. :D

Palangi 10-18-2007 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 300EVIL (Post 1650875)
Actually you'd be amazed. Very little on a copier or a printer wears out. The only thing that gets better/changes is the connectivity. Parallel, USB, Ethernet, WiFi. Anything over 600 DPI is a waste. As long as consumables are still avalable and you don't abuse the thing they last forever. I've seen copiers older than me still pumping out prints like the day they were new. Admittedly the newer copiers and printers have a lot more plastic in them than the older units but they still last forever. I've seen copiers come in with 20 million copies and run just fine. They usually look like $h!+ though. :D
You're in sales, right??:D

300EVIL 10-18-2007 11:57 PM
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You're in sales, right??:D
I'm one of the founders of the used copier industry. http://www.certifiedcopiers.com/about.aspx

Palangi 10-19-2007 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 300EVIL (Post 1650898)
I'm one of the founders of the used copier industry. http://www.certifiedcopiers.com/about.aspx
Ok, That's cool

I've been in copiers since before you were born. :)

300EVIL 10-19-2007 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 1650902)
Ok, That's cool

I've been in copiers since before you were born. :)
Cool! What brand(s)? What were your favorite models? Some guy was telling me that back in the 70's copiers had water baths under their transfer coronas. Have you ever seen/heard of this?

Palangi 10-19-2007 11:11 AM
Actually, upon closer investigation, I have been at my current employer since before you were born.:D

I never hear of any copier with a water bath, although I have seen copiers underwater in floods a couple times. I had one get hit by a car once also.

I started at Apeco in 1967. Worked on the Dial-a-Flame (Dial-a-Copy), the Super-Jam (Super-Stat), and the Ultra-Jam. I even worked on a few of the old diffusion transfer process machines. I actually used to have a customer who made diazo copies using a sun frame (took a while on a cloudy day :D).

Worked at Saxon for a couple years. Worked on Canon's when they first came out (the old grease buckets, then their first dry machines). Left before monocomponent.

Probably the best hardware I ever worked on were the Sharp's in the late 80's to late 90's (9750, 9800, 2060, 2260, 3062, etc).

pawoSD 10-19-2007 08:02 PM
I have a HP LaserJet 4000N and a 4050 high volume office printer sitting around...both work fine. Will sell pretty cheap. :D PM if interested. :)

We also use two of them here at home, both 4000N's....one has the duplexer and one has a double paper tray on it. Both bought for less than $300 over three years ago. One has 389,000 pages on it, the other has 92,000 (REAL steal of a deal, got it on ebay with 48,000 pages on it!!!). They are great printers and from the era when HP made them in California instead of China like they do now. :mad: Both are networked here too. (I'm a geek) :D Only problem so far is that the one with 389,000 needs a new paper tray sensor, but I did some circuit soldering to make it think it always has the tray inserted. Has worked great since. :D


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