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Old 12-03-2007, 12:48 PM
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Question Source for new "porch" windows?

I've got a small porch on the front of the house which was enclosed with removeable windows. When I painted the house a few years ago I made the mistake of taking them out to fix the rotted parts of the frames, crumbling glazing and a couple of the window sills. Needless to say the job was above my capabilities and they were well beyond repair so I just left them out. Now I'd really like to do something to enclose the porch again, insulation factor being one reason and having a semi-useable space when the weather is inclement is another.

They were 4x6 panels, one on either side of the storm door and 2 panels next to each other on either side for a total of 6 panels. They were wood framed, divided glass that I'd like to try to duplicate but I don't know what's out there for options. I'd even settle for single pane with some munions glued on inside and out to appease the historic district.

Any suggestions on where to start looking?

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Old 12-03-2007, 01:18 PM
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:19 PM
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I was thinking Pella would be a starting point.
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I've got a similar dilemma with my porch.

The decision that must be made is whether you want a properly manufactured double hung or casement window that is "close" to the existing sizes or whether you wish to duplicate the existing storm windows to fit the available space.

In the former instance, you get a proper operating window with double pane insulating glass. You can add suitable dividers to give the look desired. But, you must reframe the structure to accept these windows. Of course, Marvin would make you a custom fit window for your openings, but, don't ask the price.

In the latter instance, you give up the insulating qualities of a manufactured window and just make a suitable frame from cedar. It's not all that difficult to do and you route a channel for the glass. Get the glass cut to fit and install it with silicone or with traditional glass putty. I made a set of these for a rental house in one afternoon. Due to their size, 4.5' x 5', I opted for plexiglass rather than full window glass. The weight of full glass would have been problematic to remove and reinstall. But, full window glass is preferred for optical characteristics over the long term.

I'm still struggling with the decision for the porch on this house. I love the look of huge glass panes without anything breaking them up...........but, the look from the outside is not with the traditional exterior of a Dutch Colonial.

I'll be watching to see what you find.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:30 PM
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I've got a similar dilemma with my porch.

The decision that must be made is whether you want a properly manufactured double hung or casement window that is "close" to the existing sizes or whether you wish to duplicate the existing storm windows to fit the available space.

In the former instance, you get a proper operating window with double pane insulating glass. You can add suitable dividers to give the look desired. But, you must reframe the structure to accept these windows. Of course, Marvin would make you a custom fit window for your openings, but, don't ask the price.

In the latter instance, you give up the insulating qualities of a manufactured window and just make a suitable frame from cedar. It's not all that difficult to do and you route a channel for the glass. Get the glass cut to fit and install it with silicone or with traditional glass putty. I made a set of these for a rental house in one afternoon. Due to their size, 4.5' x 5', I opted for plexiglass rather than full window glass. The weight of full glass would have been problematic to remove and reinstall. But, full window glass is preferred for optical characteristics over the long term.

I'm still struggling with the decision for the porch on this house. I love the look of huge glass panes without anything breaking them up...........but, the look from the outside is not with the traditional exterior of a Dutch Colonial.

I'll be watching to see what you find.
It'll have to be the latter route since the former unfortunately doesn't have a snowball's chance in getting approval. OTOH anything will give more insulating properties than the current ones.

I have consided slapping some together myself doing just that, making a frame, routing it out and putting some plexiglass in it. I have a couple problems in that I'm not entirely comfortable with my woodworking skills and I do really like the divided pane look which in reality is what I should be putting back in and is where a lot of the expense is. When I replace the windows on the rear of the house they'll be large, undivided double-paned windows because of the views they afford.

Does anyone make pre-fab munions that I could attach on the inside and out to give the appearance of individual panes?
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:35 PM
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Does anyone make pre-fab munions that I could attach on the inside and out to give the appearance of individual panes?
Anderson makes a plastic version that is designed to snap into their double hung windows. You might be able to adapt it...........
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Here are some possible sources for "custom" windows:
DeSaint Industries, in RI
WinDor, Charlestown, RI
Harvey Windows, Warwick, RI
Paradigm, Maine

All of these outfits can build most you anything you want. Some offer different options but likely one or more will have a solution. Pella, Andersen, etc. are great if you work with one of their stock sizes. Custom stuff is big money from them. RT
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:24 AM
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Here are some possible sources for "custom" windows:
DeSaint Industries, in RI
WinDor, Charlestown, RI
Harvey Windows, Warwick, RI
Paradigm, Maine

All of these outfits can build most you anything you want. Some offer different options but likely one or more will have a solution. Pella, Andersen, etc. are great if you work with one of their stock sizes. Custom stuff is big money from them. RT
Thanks, RT. That's what I'm afraid of. If I can find something stock and adapt them or the porch I'd be happy. I will check them out, though.

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