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Old 01-02-2008, 08:01 PM
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Haiti can be helped and helpful.....

Read an interesting article lately about Haiti and that this was the safest year in recent memory, partly due to UN troops.( The rapists from Africa notwithstanding).

Anyway, some businessman was on the radio and asking why American corporations keep getting things made in China when they can get things made in Haiti cheaper.

Got me to thinking, why not? Hell, it would benefit a neighbor greatly, and many of them would not try to come here illegally if they had jobs.

At the same time, we would not have to rely on China, which is getting richer by the day, due to jobs created by US companies(mattel comes to mind), which would be good for us overall I would think.

*****, why outsource to India if we could outsource to Haiti........Dominican republic too!

My buddy has family in DR and he says the minimum wage in DR is about 180.00 US MONTHLY for a 40hr work week.

They could use the help too!

Screw China I say!

Just rambling.

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Old 01-02-2008, 09:44 PM
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Probably a matter of logistics - getting raw material there, and getting finished product back.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:15 PM
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Legal structure, political stability training, work ethic, crime, ect.

I know a lot of people who used to live in the islands...that natives work like 4 hours a day, maybe. Things happen much slower.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:13 PM
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Legal structure, political stability training, work ethic, crime, ect.

I know a lot of people who used to live in the islands...that natives work like 4 hours a day, maybe. Things happen much slower.

Ever see a Haitian work here in the states? Some of the hardest workers I have seen. Double shifts for them are nothing.
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And on the same token, if I lived in the Caribbean I wouldn't work very much either.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:27 PM
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China is politically stable and Haiti is not.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:37 PM
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China is politically stable and Haiti is not.
Give that man a cigar. He hit it right on the nose. See, we don't give a crap about who can be helped. We care about who can help us. It is all find and dandy if we build a factory there. However, if the rebels take over it, you lose your investment. If there is fighting, your product might be sitting in the factory there and not in your customer's hands. Again, not good. China has a way of crushing dissent.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:42 PM
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To hell with Haiti, China, and outsourcing. Bring back made in the USA.
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Old 01-02-2008, 11:45 PM
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To hell with Haiti, China, and outsourcing. Bring back made in the USA.
Why? Manufacturing is dead here. You can't bring them back here because we want too much for the work. We need to accept that our loved one (manufacturing) is dead and have the decency to pull the plug, cremate or bury the corpse and move along to something else.

If you won't accept that, let me ask you this. How many people would be willing AND able to pay more for a product than they are now?
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:14 AM
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If you won't accept that, let me ask you this. How many people would be willing AND able to pay more for a product than they are now?
I don't completely believe that. We can compete, it just takes good management, efficient labor, and less greed. And yes, I would pay more to know that my money is being invested in the USA, not communist China wherever. As far as I'm concerned, a company like Mattel is not an American company, it's just a shell no inards.
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:39 AM
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I don't completely believe that.

We can compete, it just takes good management, efficient labor, and less greed.

And yes, I would pay more to know that my money is being invested in the USA, not communist China wherever. As far as I'm concerned, a company like Mattel is not an American company, it's just a shell no inards.
Really? Why is it Sears is having a "Companion" line of tools? What's wrong with "Craftsman"? Why do we have Wal*Mart importing from China? After all, if people really wanted it, they would get it. People want the cheap stuff NOW. Yes, they talk of quality and paying for it. However, unless they absolutely have to, what I have seen is plenty of lip service but few people stand behind what they say when crunch time comes.

How much would it take to overcome the fact that our workers here want more per hour than they want per day in China, India, Nam, Mexico, etc, etc?

You and how many people? Look around and smell the burnt coffee. We went with cheap because people don't care about quality. If they did for the most part, why would anyone import stuff from that country? Think about it. If we all boycotted Chinese goods, why would Wal*Mart or any company import it? If you were CEO of Wal*Mart and found that 99% of the Chinese line of stuff didn't sell, would you still continue stocking it our would you dump it? Fact is that the consumer has spoken. They were offered a US made widget at $5 and a Chinese Widget at $3 and the US widget lost and so it isn't sold much more.
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Find American's who are willing to work in a factory for $5 an hour 12 hours a day, with zero benifits, then maybe some companies will build factories.
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Find American's who are willing to work in a factory for $5 an hour 12 hours a day, with zero benifits, then maybe some companies will build factories.
Or get rid of business taxes, which are merely passed through to consumers, raising the cost of products.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:00 AM
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Another good solution. However the lib's would run anyone out of town who tried that.
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Or get rid of business taxes, which are merely passed through to consumers, raising the cost of products.
Yep, that ought to save about 2%........maybe 3%.........of the cost of the item..........we're really making progress to lower that cost............

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