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Old 02-13-2008, 09:39 AM
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Meaning no offense to any Kentuckian, it does seem to be a state that you don't hear much about in terms of cultural highlights, contribution to the culture, etc., aside from racehorses.

I heard a bit on NPR about just how big a deal the Kentucky derby is there.

And regarding mountainous regions, it does seem that around the planet, the more mountainous, the more backward -- Afghanistan, Pakistan, even Tibet to some degree.
Um, Austria. Not so backwards and very steep. I live a bit north of KY. Not being a native of IN, you do notice a few cultural differences. Still, I wouldn't discount people as stupid, by looks, culture etc. Some do the best they can with what they have. The post about septic tanks and wells sound simular to the Quarum community (Dead Sea scrolls). The site was laid out in accordance with another Jewish community. Unfortunately, the topography was differenent so the sewage didn't run off.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:47 PM
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Kentucky is not a big contributer to culture per se as you mentioned. We are real big on horses. (the queen of England sometimes buys horses in KY.). We have the KY derby and in 2010 we have a world Equestrian event: http://www.feigames2010.org/ . The east side of Ky is mountains and the central to west side is a bit flat. Horse country is central KY. I live in Northern Ky, about 10 miles south of Cincinnati, Oh. I'm looking to buy a house about 30 miles further south if I can talk the misses into it.
The mountian regions can be very backward. Deep into the hills, you hit places where the driveway is basically a creekbed. Can you imagine UPS, FedEx and DHL all making daily deliveries every day there?
Ky has 120 counties. Yeah, busy little map. At least it keeps government more local. Funny thing about those counties: of the 120 counties, pot grows in 119 of them (our biggest cash crop). Pike county supposedly doesn't grow pot. You need level ground and Pike county doesn't have any! For a real adventure, try towing your travel trailer around some of he narrow mountain roads (with near sheer dropoffs) and have a big coal truck come around the curve the towards you.
Still, it's a beautiful place with lakes and mountains and green fields and rivers. Big cities are Lexington (see James Bond's Goldfinger) and Louisville (Ky Derby). Bunch of medium cities (including Covington-my home). Tons of historic little towns. Oh, I found out last year that Daniel Boone was a great, grreat x10 uncle.
Many years ago, my wife (a teacher) was doing some work way down in the hills. There was a small private school. Parents would bring in their kids shortly after they were born to register them for school. A good education was hard to get and the folks did understand the value.
Any of you who are going to be coming thru the area should PM me. I'd be happy to meet up with any of ya'll. Of course if you have trouble with your MB while traveling thru here, I'd be happy to help.
Oh almost forgot. We have one of the biggest mercedes only salvage yards in the country!
Interesting stuff, and once again, let me stress I'm certain there are many fine people in Kentucky, but it just dawned on me the other day that I hardly ever hear any news out of the state. I can only think of two cities there, Frankfurt and Knoxville, but that could just as easily say more about my education than anything else.

I've always thought it bit odd that people seem to think that Seattle is a liberal haven of high class scholars and hippies, -- oh man, the stories I could tell you about low lifes in Seattle (drove cab there part time for about 15 years -- night shift usually).

I would love to visit Kentucky and I dig horses -- never owned one but I'm fascinated by them. I just missed out on a job at a training stables for thoroughbred jumpers outside of Davey (sp), Florida in '73 and instead got a job milking cows down the road!

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Old 02-13-2008, 05:51 PM
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Um, Austria. Not so backwards and very steep. I live a bit north of KY. Not being a native of IN, you do notice a few cultural differences. Still, I wouldn't discount people as stupid, by looks, culture etc. Some do the best they can with what they have. The post about septic tanks and wells sound simular to the Quarum community (Dead Sea scrolls). The site was laid out in accordance with another Jewish community. Unfortunately, the topography was differenent so the sewage didn't run off.
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I just thought about that last night (Austria). Switzerland too. I saw some pictures of some of the mountainous regions of Pakstan after the big earthquake there a year or two ago. Gorgeous country but it struck me, well of course, any kind of transport, commerce, agriculture, you name it, is going to be more difficult in that terrain (especially w/o modern tech) and that would likely lead to less prosperity, education, etc.
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I appreciate mountain people. they have music with natural rhythms of the hills. I just wouldn't want my sister to marry one.
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Frankfort is our state capital. Nice, kinda small place. Knoxville is just south of KY in Tenn.. Straight down I-65 from Bowling Green (home of Corvette plant). My kid goes to school in Bowling Green at Western Ky U. I'll be going down there tomorrow.
Yeah, the hills can make transportation difficult. Without good transportation, everything seems to suffer. Makes everything more expensive. Fewer companies want to locate there (except coal companies, and they sometimes make the hills go away!). Harder to get kids to school. Snowball effect.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:11 PM
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Whoops, shows my ingnorance of Kentucky. You sure Knoxville's not in Kentucky? Oh yeah, I've heard of Bowling Green. Dave Wottle, the miler, used to go to school there. No wait, that's in Ohio. Damn.

It's a tough one. I love the foothills and the mountains. Back in my card-carrying hippie days, I spent 3 months prepping for and tearing down the '92 Rainbow gathering outside of Paonia, CO at 9 to 10 thousand feet elevation on the Grand Mesa.

Oh man, "what a place, what a time, what a dog." - Thoreau.

About my favorite place in the world is the area around Tonasket, WA, about 90 miles N. or Wenatchee and 30 miles south of Canada. (I put a pic of that area in my sig line) The hills around there are rugged, dry, and beautiful. Around 1970, somehow a loose knit group of hippies settled there and esablished one of the few old time hippie co-ops still existing that I know of.

One guy known as Skeeter got the idea for a harvest fair in October and it's become quite the institution. Quite a mix shows up for it. Along with hippies selling glass pipes and beads, you've got farmers selling bags of wheat, barley, and buckwheat grain and flour that they cultivated with work horses, good ol' boys who roll out greasy looking canvas tarps to sell and trade tools that look like WW2 era stock, and some of the healthiest kids I've seen anywhere playing on swing sets and the like made out of lodge pole pine.

I'm a folksinger type guy and the song circles around the fires are about the best I've found anywhere. The food booths are a treasure and the hills/mountains call to me.

Along with that are all sorts of rough hewn youth with their boom box cars who don't seem to understand that most of us would prefer the sound of live acoustic music and drums to hip-hop or heavy metal, and an unfortunate number of drunks who like to get rowdy and make rude suggestions to cute young hippie chicks.

Making ends meet is tough up there, I lived there for a year, struggled, still want to retire there and maybe I will. Part of my quest in the flat lands is to find skills and methods to improve the quality of life up there.

Seems to me like rugged country can bring out the best and the worst in people.

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