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Originally Posted by DieselAddict
I never advocated some slime tactic or runaround legal procedure that would ban all guns. The registration system, if implemented as I intended, would never go after law-abiding gun owners.
As far as outright bans go sometimes they do make sense locally. In cities with very high gang violence I think a gun ban makes sense if the gang members are mostly killing each other. A gun ban allows the local police to confiscate the guns and arrest these individuals preventively even if these gang members have no prior criminal record.
As far as the 2nd amendment being repealed (which BTW mentions "arms", not "guns"), wouldn't it take over 2/3 majority in congress, not to mention strong public support? I just don't see that happening.
While it comforts me that most of my neighbors probably have guns and therefore burglaries are probably less likely in my neighborhood, it also concerns me how easy it is to get a gun and kill someone. It's definitely a double-edged sword issue for me.
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Fine, that's you. However, the question is whether you can speak for all the other "gun control" people. That term is just an attempt at being benign for the msot part. If they did come outright to say "We want guns banned. End of story.", they won't get much traction. Therefore, they just say "We want to control it.". I have seen this tactic work before. In Singapore, guns are banned. Few things else are. Curfew? Nope. Alcohol? Nope. Public transportation shuts down around midnight. Taxis get big bucks for after midnight work. Cars? You probably can't afford it. Is there a curfew? No. Alcohol. "Persons under the age of eighteen are prohibited from consuming intoxicating beverages on the premises". What does this mean? Can my 6 yo son buy me a 6 pack? Sure. They tax the hell out of it though. Again, no ban. Just make it so difficult it becomes virtually impossible.
But they need to be committing a crime first. You can't go frisking every Tom, Dick or Harry because they wear gang colors. A cop can't ask you to go against the wall and search you for drugs or guns. So in theory, yes. Implementation is going to be difficult.
Again, can I ban it without changing the constitution? Sure. Say I put a $1000 tax on a gun sale. Did I change the constitution? No. It is simply a "user tax". Would most people be able to afford it? Probably not. Is it a ban? No. Do I make it impossible for you to do it? Sure.
Didn't you already admit that gun bans or making them plentiful won't change much? I can't stop someone from killing someone else. Might as well live in an area where the guns at least are a deterrent for the house breakers
02-25-2008, 03:12 PM
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