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Old 03-20-2008, 10:05 AM
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Cleveland 351 Engine-

Just curious, what made them so good and were these the engines used in Checker cabs many moons ago?
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:13 AM
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It was a carburetted engine. Supplanted by the 4.6L modular engine.

The 351 Cleveland engine, if I recall, was rarer, and more coveted, high performance engine.

The 351 Windsor was the workaday one, found in trucks too, and Police cars as the "Interceptor" engine.

I am pretty sure the "Windsor" engine was made in the STAP in Windsor, Ontario Canada, and you can guess yourself where the Cleveland engine was made.

1991 was the last year the 351 went in any of the passenger cars, (Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis and 1990 for the
Town car), and in those last years they had carb trouble.

By 1992 they were all running the new, highly touted by Ford, modular 4.6 engine with EFI, which they still do today.

A tough, durable, long lasting engine, that will never win prizes for fuel economy or efficiency.

Probably the best one to have would be one in a 1969-1970 Mustang "Boss 351", with few smog controls, a screamin' tire smoking, REAL muscle car with a real V8 american rumble at idle
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The Windsor was the everyday workhorse engine. The Cleveland was the high performance engine. Much sought after. Funny thing was, the Cleveland wound up in some more family type cars like the Montego. This made them real sleepers and later made those cars sought after by folks who wanted a Cleveland engine for for other car. Buy the car, jerk the engine and then scrap the car. And the rule with the hot car crowd was "where a 302 goes, a 351 will follow". As I recall, a mild blueprint and build on a Cleveland would make 441 hp. On pump gas.
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I dont know if they were used in checkers or not but what made the cleveland great was it's cyl heads and high compression ratio. They made 2 different style of heads. 1 for 2 bbl carbs and 1 for 4 bbl carbs. have a look at the intake ports on a 2bbl head and you will see what I mean then just imagine what the 4bbl heads look like.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:58 AM
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I drove a Pantera back in the day and I believe it had the Cleveland engine,,,, that sucker would sure rip.
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I think V8 versions of Checker cabs used Chevrolet engines. The sole powerplant for the 1990 Town Car was the Ford 302 engine.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:07 AM
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I don't think they were used in Checkers. I believe they used Chevy 327/350 as well as AMC six cylinder engines...
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I seem to remember the 351C had a bigger, wider block and would not fit in the same space as a 351W.

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I seem to remember the 351C had a bigger, wider block and would not fit in the same space as a 351W.

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Thats right except it would fit most places the windsor would.

The windsor and clevelend look a lot alike until you sit them side by side. The cleveland has a bigger block, bigger heads bigger manifolds and absoulutely HUGE intake and exhaust ports.

The cleveland is an absoulute horse of an engine.

As Jim said, tough durable and thirsty.

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Maybe this will help.

http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewexperience.cgi?experience_id=132
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As a former Ford nut that owned a 2bbl 351 Cleveland I can tell you that it was the canted valve head design that makes them valuable.It was designed to get similar permormance as a Hemi and the 4bbl heads are almost identical to the ones used on the Boss 302.The last time I checked almost all Ford racers used the Austrailian version of the cleveland which was manufactured longer than here in the US.
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I put a 1970 351C with Cobra Jet heads in a 1973 Mercury Capri. The intake runners and valves were gigantic for a "small block" - nearly as large as a big block Chevy. The size of the runners restricted low end torque which wasn't a problem on the light weight Capri.

These engines would really make power in the upper RPM ranges and I believe they were used for NASCAR Fords at the time after CID was restricted to 355.
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