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Botnst 04-20-2008 02:22 PM

Elevator lore
 
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/21/080421fa_fact_paumgarten?currentPage=all

Yet another reason to be thankful I don't live in a big city ... elevators.

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Pete Geither 04-20-2008 09:26 PM

Bot,,, you come up with the neatest $hit. :D

Botnst 04-20-2008 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Geither (Post 1830386)
Bot,,, you come up with the neatest $hit. :D

Thanks, Pete. I read it and then thought that lots of folks here would enjoy it, too.

B

Larry Delor 04-20-2008 10:49 PM

Thanks Bot -

For me, that was interesting.

123c 04-20-2008 11:19 PM

I hate the things, they scare me way too much...

catmandoo62 04-21-2008 09:02 AM

the video is up on youtube.

Carleton Hughes 04-21-2008 09:09 AM

Goddamn deathtraps. When I worked in the City I was trapped in one for 20 LONG MINUTES after a power spike blew a breaker or something.

Than GOD I just had 4 shots of Drambuie or I would have had one f*cked up massive anxiety attack.

Dee8go 04-21-2008 09:20 AM

Gosh, I never even thought of something like THAT happening. Thanks a lot, Bot! Now I have one MORE thing to worry about. Actually, I have thought about getting stuck in one recently. Fortunately, I have very little occassion to be in very tall buildings.

Mistress 04-21-2008 10:10 AM

I thought this was going to be a story about love blooming in an elevator. About a man and a woman going to work each day at the same time in the same car a chance meeting I think not. Day in and day out they would drink in with all five senses this other person they were riding with. Never a word was spoken as it became clearer with each encounter one day something would happen and it did thanks to a grid glitch in the power supply. They were in the elevator by themselves, just the tow of them this day when there was a jolt, and the car stopped, lights flickered on then off again.
Not sure what to do, they introduced themselves getting closer to each other as if to use each other to quell their fear and panic. They embrassed and kissed the longest kiss ever......the car started up again a sigh could be felt and as the doors opened they parted company.

Not bad for just making that up eigh?

Dee8go 04-21-2008 10:14 AM

You been reading Cavafy again?

Mistress 04-21-2008 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1830811)
You been reading Cavafy again?

If I inserted anything Cavafyesque in there it would be banned.

Dee8go 04-21-2008 10:24 AM

Well, it WAS very poetic, whatever inspired it. You have a way with words . . .

WVOtoGO 04-21-2008 10:35 AM

Nice one Mistress…

I was thinking of some blood filled story where someone left a gust-lock on or something…..

R Leo 04-21-2008 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVOtoGO (Post 1830827)
Nice one Mistress…

I was thinking of some blood filled story where someone left a gust-lock on or something…..

Not funny. Remember the Beech that augered-in at Hobby a few years back? A friend's uncle was in the back seat...what happened? Amongst many other stupid moves, the pilot left the control lock in place on the yoke.

Dee8go 04-21-2008 11:53 AM

"Sigh . . . " Another elevator thread that has degenerated into yet another aviation discussion . . . .

WVOtoGO 04-21-2008 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1830902)
"Sigh . . . " Another elevator thread that has degenerated into yet another aviation discussion . . . .

LOL :D

In that case...I'll stop here and not address Randy's post....

Sorry...:o

WVOtoGO 04-21-2008 12:00 PM

BTW – NOTHING “degenerates” into anything aviation related. Damn it.

Dee8go 04-21-2008 12:01 PM

Hee hee hee . . . . :D. So I've been told.

Mistress 04-21-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVOtoGO (Post 1830909)
LOL :D

In that case...I'll stop here and not address Randy's post....

Sorry...:o

Ignore Dee8go- please explain Randy's post...i thought that was number one on pre-inspection or do all the newbies pay attention at first.

Dee8go 04-21-2008 12:09 PM

Hey! Hey! Hey!

WVOtoGO 04-21-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1830919)
Ignore Dee8go- please explain Randy's post...i thought that was number one on pre-inspection or do all the newbies pay attention at first.

Ok. But it will have to wait a bit.
Just got a call from a friend, and now need to get my butt off the ground toot sweet.

Cow chase'n time !!!:D

LUVMBDiesels 04-21-2008 12:21 PM

It happened to me...
 
Back in 2000 I was going to see a head hunter in NYC. The office was on the 40th floor in an older building near Times SQ. I had the interview then go into an express elevator for the ride down with two women.
We got past all the floors the car would open at and were between openings whenthe elevator stopped running. At first we thought nothing much of this, but then an hour past and we were still stuck. We had been able to contact the lobby via the intercomand they told us that all the elevators had gone out! Well the FDNY Rescue 1 guys showed up and tried to get the car to move. One was shouting about releasing the emergency brake when the older woman, Joan, started screaming at him to leave that G-D emergency brake alone! What they ended up doing was sledgehammering an opening in the shaft as close to us as possible. We then had to climb out as the opening was about six feet above the car, leaving us a small gap to crawl through.

When we came out, we were interviewed by the local news. It turns out that we were in there for almost four hours!

I still keep in touch with Joan, who worked for the head hunter and got me a nice job! If only we had been alone all that time... She also moved her office to the second floor!

On a sad note, the guys who rescued us were among the ones who ran into the Twin Towers a year later...

WVOtoGO 04-21-2008 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1830919)
Ignore Dee8go- please explain Randy's post...i thought that was number one on pre-inspection or do all the newbies pay attention at first.

OK. Sorry for the major hijack Bot. But the little lady asked.....

DATE & SITE: 5/12 - Houston, Texas
AIRCRAFT & REGISTRATION: Beech BE-95-B55, N4005A
CIRCUMSTANCES: Destroyed on impact with terrain after takeoff/VMC/D
DEATHS & INJURIES: 6 - Fatal
NTSB ID#: FTW00FA146
PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS2: Inadequate pre-flight preparation/apparent failure to remove control lock and use pre-takeoff checklist/apparent failure to perform freedom of movement of flight controls before takeoff.

Per NTSB DMS: FTW00FA146
The pilot did not perform an aircraft runup and proceeded to takeoff. Numerous witnesses observed the airplane pitch up to a 70 to 80-degree nose high attitude upon liftoff. The witnesses then observed the nose of the airplane momentarily pitch nose down slightly and immediately pitch nose high again. They then reported observing the airplane roll to the left and impact the ground in a nose low, left wing low attitude. Shortly after impacting the ground, a fire erupted. Examination of the wreckage revealed that the pilot had failed to remove the control lock pin from the control column. A safety alert, service instruction, and mandatory service bulletin were issued by the aircraft manufacturer, which dealt with control lock awareness and a control lock modification. The pilot/aircraft owner did not comply with the service instruction and mandatory service bulletin, nor did he have the original control lock assembly installed. A conservative weight and balance computation indicated that the pilot loaded the airplane beyond the airplane's certificated maximum gross weight and aft center of gravity limitations. An autopsy of the pilot revealed that he had suffered from an 'acute myocardial infarct' prior to the airplane impacting the ground.
I am sorry about the loss of life in this incident. Especially that of those who innocently trusted this pilots abilities.

No, Randy. There is nothing funny about this incident.

However - Not moving the control yoke in an aircraft in such a manner as to determine/detect that the control system is functional/locked, sometime prior to takeoff, is absolutely incomprehensible to me.

WVOtoGO 04-21-2008 02:52 PM

Now…back to our regularly scheduled program.


I hate being in elevators, with one exception….
DJ hitting the stop button and asking “Nutmeg?” with that cute little grin on her face.



Ok…I feel better now about the hijack.

Dee8go 04-21-2008 03:05 PM

Did you catch them cows, WVO?

WVOtoGO 04-21-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1831155)
Did you catch them cows, WVO?

Not catch.
More like herd from the air with the 530.

Some yahoo ran through a friends fence last night and about 40 head were headed west on 455 near Slidell. :eek:

All back home now, safe and sound.

I did make sure they got their exercise for the day.:D

WVOtoGO 04-22-2008 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catmandoo62 (Post 1830742)
the video is up on youtube.

Here's a good one. MSNBC is running with it. Perfect music, too.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/video/2008/04/21/080421_elevators

t walgamuth 04-22-2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1830808)
I thought this was going to be a story about love blooming in an elevator. About a man and a woman going to work each day at the same time in the same car a chance meeting I think not. Day in and day out they would drink in with all five senses this other person they were riding with. Never a word was spoken as it became clearer with each encounter one day something would happen and it did thanks to a grid glitch in the power supply. They were in the elevator by themselves, just the tow of them this day when there was a jolt, and the car stopped, lights flickered on then off again.
Not sure what to do, they introduced themselves getting closer to each other as if to use each other to quell their fear and panic. They embrassed and kissed the longest kiss ever......the car started up again a sigh could be felt and as the doors opened they parted company.

Not bad for just making that up eigh?

Not bad, Mistress!

It is definately the basis for a short story!

Tom W

t walgamuth 04-22-2008 09:51 AM

I just switched Elevator companies for the maintenance contract on my building.

The company I had had been bought and the service had deteriorated until I almost felt I knew more about the elevator than the guys they sent out to fix it. The last month and a half of their service the elevator went down about 20 times. I was so unhappy.

So I signed up with a new company Amco, and am hoping for the best.

As luck would have it the old company kept doing repairs up til the last day, even coming back a few days after their contract expired to put on some parts that had not come in in time and......

The elevator has been trouble free for a month.

They got lucky and fixed it after two months of having a crew drive up from Indianapolis every other day to guess at the problem.

I'll keep you posted on the new company.

BTW, my elevator was put in in 1951 and it is still mostly all original except for replacing wear parts. Although it has been down many times in the last eight years folks only have been stuck in it twice and then only for short periods of time. It has never fallen and I feel totally safe riding it up and down.

Tom W

Dee8go 04-22-2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVOtoGO (Post 1831250)
Not catch.
More like herd from the air with the 530.

Some yahoo ran through a friends fence last night and about 40 head were headed west on 455 near Slidell. :eek:

All back home now, safe and sound.

I did make sure they got their exercise for the day.:D

Well, the life of an aviator sounds a lot more interesting than the life of a salesman . . . :D

aklim 04-22-2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1830823)
Well, it WAS very poetic, whatever inspired it. You have a way with words . . .

And I'm sure her oral arguments aren't bad either. :D:D

WVOtoGO 04-22-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1831932)
Well, the life of an aviator sounds a lot more interesting than the life of a salesman . . . :D

Well, I guess “interesting” is a good word for it.
I can assure you though, that it hasn’t been all fun and adventure.

Fun and adventure have quite often been superceded by near death experiences and long boring flights far from home.

Mistress 04-22-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVOtoGO (Post 1832194)
Well, I guess “interesting” is a good word for it.
I can assure you though, that it hasn’t been all fun and adventure.

Fun and adventure have quite often been superceded by near death experiences and long boring flights far from home.

Along with co-piloting guys who can't land IFR...anything ever come of that episode?

WVOtoGO 04-22-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1832200)
Along with co-piloting guys who can't land IFR...anything ever come of that episode?

Still on the books, I guess. But, I’m done with it.

He was recommended for another phys. Mainly vision tests I’d venture to say. They did find his experience with night IFR approaches in type to be pretty much all in the simulators. (Like that’s a big surprise.)

The company he was to fly for had me out for some questions and opinions. I kept both brief. Last I heard he was still on staff, but I got the impression it wasn’t as Chief Pilot.


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