I always knew you like those ...

Albert? Must have been good stuff ... he died at 102.

Didn't say I liked them, said they're cool.

Interesting red stars on his website. Maybe he owns a Texaco station or something?

http://www.billayers.com

I say we all pitch in and get Manson out at his next parole hearing and bunk him with cmac so they can talk about how crazy the good ole days were and how grown up they are now:D

I noticed that. Was his name Hoffman or something like that? He was the man behind Timothy Leary's successful career.

I know, Mr. hoffman. I had a few days of silent giant flower meditation for him. Or maybe it was a few minutes I couldnt' tell. CMAC- don't worry if your political career doesn't work out you can fall back on your stellar abilities to install the Toto Superflush 2000.

Utter and complete chest beating crap. So lessee, the Lt. Calleys, the ones caught and not caught, are fine Americans in your book? And how about Gen. dimwad Westmoreland, who issued the free fire zone orders? One of the great frustrations of my life is that I never had the chance to bust him hard in the mouth.

Dude, murder, mass murder, w/o provocation, has some serious consequences, here and in the hereafter.

Get a clue while you're still alive.

DUDE!!! Will you pull that flag out of your ears?!? I never said Ayers was right to do what he did. Holy crap.

And no one was killed from those bombs except a few of the dimwits when they were making one. Buncha idiots.

The point is the times were way weird -- as for dyanmiting your own people -- I am not obligated to stand with any and every American when they are going off the deep end and insisting that I join them in their criminality under threat of incarceration if I refuse. I would never bomb American property but I can understand how those folks went off the deep end. And the chest swollen hawks in this country, utterly unable to consider their own errors still want to crucify Ayers and gang. :rolleyes:

My comparison above to taking Jews to the ovens is sadly quite accurate, I'm afraid. Many Germans believed until after the war the Poland had attacked them! The anxiety about the grave danger Jews posed to the sanctity of the German people was about as rational as American fears of what the dreaded Vietnamese communist monolith would do to the US os A.

You are one sadly self-deluded exuse for a scholar.

That's so funny I forgot to laugh.

In a related note, when I was about 20, I had a huge beard and long hair. Something in my nose and brow is similar to Mansons, and I looked a bit like a red-bearded Manson. (!??!) :eek:

Absolutely. I say any and every thought you had when you were 19 or 20 should be etched in stone and the miscreant in question be required to carry that stone around their neck for life.

Just checked -- he was 26 in 1970.

He must really be a blow hard if he can kill people by talking. I thought only Bush/Cheney could do that.
On a side note, the Allies responsible can be tried posthumously for their civilian bombings, right? Or is one in the clear if they actually act?

Biff! Pow! Poof!

Ya know, I can't help but notice, whenever you say "So, you're saying" or "So lessee", whatever follows bears not the slightest resemblance to what was actually said.

So, lessee, you're saying president O Bomma should appoint the highly respected perfesser Ayers as Secretary of Education under his regime?

Oh naughty me. Like I expected it would be anything other than water off your well oiled back.

You're going with pride over scholarship. Not supportable.

For example, the constant refrain about how we abandoned the people of Cambodia to the horrors of the killing fields is utter nonsense.

We couldn't subdue Vietnam with troop levels of between 3 and 5 hundred thousand for YEARS, how were we going to continue, with the success that was just around the corner :rolleyes:, that failed enterprise while also invading Cambodia and doing the same there?

And besides, as it is utterly clear to anyone with out chestfuls of lettuce clouding their vision, we paved the way for Pol Pot and crew, more bombs than on Germany in WW2, and this in a country that had very few industrial targets. Exactly what targets were we bombing with those "dumb" bombs?

It destabilized the hell out of the existing power structure and handed the propaganda victory of a lifetime to the Kmer Rouge. And then we were going to waltz in and expect the people to run to the shelter of our benevolence??! We'd have had rougher sledding there than in Vietnam.

But who am I kidding? You have no objectivity on this issue. It's SIR! YES SIR! until the day you die.

Oh boy. . . . .

Have it your way. I see it as positing a part of your position that does not stand up. The example you give has less relevance than what I said.

But perhaps you have a point. Slightly. Maybe.

My point was that you assert that the dimwad wannabe communist revolutionaries are guilty as sin from now on but I don't gather that you'll ever concede that the crowd in power that drove them nuts is in any way culpable for error, crimes, etc.

I maintain they were. Nixon and Henry the K were/are war criminals. Ditto for 20 watt bulb Westmoreland. The flag waving does not erase any and all sin, irregardless.

Reminds me of the dimwits on the crusades who raped, robbed, and pillaged on the way down cause they had been assured that all their sins would be forgiven them once they did the glorious, God ordained, work of "freeing" the holy lands from the Saracen dogs.