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Ummm, looks familliar.....

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=1893097&postcount=379

Back in the "Wake up and start drilling" thread...
Where you were opposed to anything I said.

Now you post it, like it is yours.


RichC

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So be it then! Although I do agree, this is a very promising idea and should be pushed even more, regardless of what the oil market does.

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Dan
2005 E320 CDI - 246k
1987 300SDL TD05-16g, Herlevi pump, Elbe manifold, 2.47 LSD - 213k
Past: 1987 300D - 264k

Hmmmmmm, I'm trying to imagine the downside of that. Help me out?

B

The downside is more addition to oil. What are you gonna do when oil runs out? There'll be severe withdrawal symptoms to say the least. Plus it will make climate change worse and replenish Al Qaeda's budget.

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Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

Invent the bioreactor?

You'll have to be a little more explicit than just throwing out random phrases for me to respond.

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Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

Okay, follow the bouncing ball.

The price of carbon-based fuel has skyrocketed. The result is that alternatives are becoming increasingly viable. The consumer benefits.

If carbon-based fuels decline in price the competing methods have to improve efficiency or go belly-up. In either case the consumer benefits.

Repeat.

B

I see, but that's if the alternative energy business is already well established. A big drop in oil could easily put alternative energy out of business, especially while still in infancy. Consequently SA cuts production and oil prices skyrocket again... back to square one. Lots of economists are now proposing an oil price floor for this reason.

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Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

Let's say KSA acts as you say and we go through repeated cycles of high and moderate oil prices. Let's say we want to moderate the impact of a single-source producer dramatically impacting the market.

How about -- develop alternative sources of energy? Like ... drilling for oil. developing nuke power. Wind. No single source will do it. But a broad-response might do it. Who knows?

If there are a large number of alternative sources such that KSA no longer controls market price then the market returns to supply/demand rather than cartel-based pricing.

None of it requires a national response other than getting the f**k out of the way of entrepreneurs and financial risk-takers. You know who they are, right? Speculators! Demon Spawn!

That's where capital comes from. No capital, no entrepreneur. No entrepreneur, no innovation. Maybe someday the government will figure it out.

B

Hope it works. Grow algae in closed loop, lots of it, then a miracle occurs, algae oil saves the day. Getting the oil separated efficiently has been a problem and I didn't hear a solution.

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95 300D
96 vision recumbent
2004 Wrangler

Point.

I for one feel the governments refusal to fund a mini-manhattan project to develop and implement a broad spectrum alternative energy project is criminal.

Just imagine the ramifications of such a venture. We could keep all that money and employ our own people. Germany has had a great deal of success with solar in a very short time.

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98 2500 4x4 HD Dodge 24 Valve Cummins TD
83 Chevy Van (Dead-Trans. shot)

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Follow your own bouncing ball.
That is how we have gotten into this mess.
It has not been the solution, but the cause.

Companies making huge profits while we pay more and more for less and less.
The little guy gets squashed, and nothing changes.



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Brother can you spare a slime?

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1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831799&postcount=13
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831807&postcount=14

Use your own money. Don't extort money from me to spend on your pet project.

B