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nh500sl 07-26-2008 08:32 PM

Look at those seats....I don't believe the miles
 
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/770105839.html

Skippy 07-26-2008 08:46 PM

I have better looking seats in my 306,000 mile 300D. Of course, I have much worse looking seats in my 224,000 mile 240.

I don't believe the 21,000 mile bit either.

Carleton Hughes 07-26-2008 08:50 PM

No way 21K,unless the owner and his/her spouse is a really fat slob.

Jim B. 07-26-2008 09:19 PM

It's "signal rot"
 
That's the best color for the R107

865sp300e 07-26-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes (Post 1921822)
No way 21K,unless the owner and his/her spouse is a really fat slob.

That was my exact reaction

LUVMBDiesels 07-26-2008 09:39 PM

I think he left off a zero...

Looks more like a 210000 mile car.

123c 07-26-2008 09:42 PM

I saw a Ferrari with 16,000 miles at a used car lots that had torn up seats :eek:

pawoSD 07-26-2008 09:53 PM

If the guy weighs 450lbs and drove it around the city as a cruiser then it might be possible.....you never know.

TMAllison 07-26-2008 10:22 PM

They're homeless obviously. They just parked in it front of someones house to take pics.

G-Benz 07-27-2008 02:44 AM

Perhaps the seats were sat on a lot, but the car was rarely driven? :confused:

johnathan1 07-27-2008 05:32 AM

Could be just from age, heat, and sun damage...it could have been left out in the sun for long periods...

Hatterasguy 07-27-2008 01:05 PM

Notice the center console is turning pink, so its kind of sun baked. Could be legit, you would have to look at the car.

450slcguy 07-27-2008 01:17 PM

32 years old and 21k miles. Less than 700 miles a year average. Sure it happens, extremely rare though. Those kind of cars are garaged all their life, sun damage interior doesn't fit the bill, even fat slob owner doesn't cut it.

Odometer swap, prime canidate. Happens all the time, more than likely the case here. Should be easy to determne the truth in 10 minutes.

kmaysob 07-27-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 450slcguy (Post 1922228)
32 years old and 21k miles. Less than 700 miles a year average. Sure it happens, extremely rare though. Those kind of cars are garaged all their life, sun damage interior doesn't fit the bill, even fat slob owner doesn't cut it.

Odometer swap, prime canidate. Happens all the time, more than likely the case here. Should be easy to determne the truth in 10 minutes.



i would like to know how you figure that? not everybody has a garage

450slcguy 07-27-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kmaysob (Post 1922328)
i would like to know how you figure that? not everybody has a garage

Logical reasoning.

#1 - I would reason a 32 year old Mercedes SL with 21k original miles was maintained by the original owner for the vast majority of it's life. I would also reason that someone with the means($$$) to afford such a car and drive it so little probably had a garage or two. I'll go out on a limb and also reason the car is for sale now because the original owner died and the person who has possession of it doesn't cherish it like the original owner did. It's the same repeating story for many cars with that mileage and age.
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#2 - Or, it could be odometer fraud. It's the same repeating story for many cars with that mileage and age.

It would be interesting to email the seller and see what story they'll give. I'm betting on story #1, if it's a true low mileage car. But then again, you'll also get story #1 if it's fraud.

It's up to the prospective buyer to determine what the true story is. Either way, I'd be willing to bet one of the two stories is the truth. Care to prove me wrong?

johnathan1 07-27-2008 07:07 PM

You know...I think that kind of damage comes with age alone...the same thing started happening to the seats in my 300CD...seems like that unraveling of the gathers happens when the car sits for a long period of time unused, then when you start using the seats again, they do that really easily because the thread gets brittle and rips super easy just from age.

Hatterasguy 07-27-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 450slcguy (Post 1922338)
Logical reasoning.

#1 - I would reason a 32 year old Mercedes SL with 21k original miles was maintained by the original owner for the vast majority of it's life. I would also reason that someone with the means($$$) to afford such a car and drive it so little probably had a garage or two. I'll go out on a limb and also reason the car is for sale now because the original owner died and the person who has possession of it doesn't cherish it like the original owner did. It's the same repeating story for many cars with that mileage and age.
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#2 - Or, it could be odometer fraud. It's the same repeating story for many cars with that mileage and age.

It would be interesting to email the seller and see what story they'll give. I'm betting on story #1, if it's a true low mileage car. But then again, you'll also get story #1 if it's fraud.

It's up to the prospective buyer to determine what the true story is. Either way, I'd be willing to bet one of the two stories is the truth. Care to prove me wrong?

Having looked at a few SL's number 1 is probably correct. They are usualy second, third, etc toy cars.

Matt SD300 07-27-2008 07:30 PM

Pedal wear is what I would look at first.......................;)

450slcguy 07-27-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300 (Post 1922456)
Pedal wear is what I would look at first.......................;)

Perhaps, but pedal rubber can be replaced for a few dollars and 10 minutes of time.

I'd put the car on a lift and inspect the under chassis. Should be extremely clean and original as should the engine compartment. Orignal exhaust system and spare tire. Interior should be very clean with minimal wear. Unless it sat outside in the sun for more than a few years the seats should have held up very well. Seat bolster on driver side should be real nice, irregardless of the seat cushion condition which should be good too.

bgkast 07-28-2008 10:49 PM

I called about that car and left a message but never was called back

sixto 07-29-2008 12:01 PM

Looks like a bit of overspray in the passenger door rubber and checkstrap. Are checkstraps ever body color?

Shouldn't it have downturned tailpipes?

Wouldn't an honest 21K SL fetch more than $4900?

Sixto
87 300D

E150GT 07-29-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathan1 (Post 1922081)
Could be just from age, heat, and sun damage...it could have been left out in the sun for long periods...

I agree. If you looked at my seats with 200k, you would think that SL's butt cushions are brand spankin new. Oh how I long for good leather.

cscmc1 07-29-2008 12:36 PM

It's got a dash cap, too. Probably sat in the sun and the dash is cracked, which would explain the "pinking" of the console too.

dynalow 07-29-2008 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt SD300 (Post 1922456)
Pedal wear is what I would look at first.......................;)

Steering wheel leather wear and indentations.;)

Looking closely at the colors of the needles of the speedo and the other guages, there appears to be slight color differences. Speedo is looks to me more yellow than the needle on the left.

My odo went a few years ago, and I had it changed by a reputable independent dealer. Same mileage was transferred to the replacement, but after a whlie I noticed the needles of the speedo and the fuel and temp guage no longer matched the tach. The replacement speedo was more yellowish than the original, which was more reddish pink. :rolleyes: I think the guy changed two and left me with only the original tach.. Why he would have done that I can't guess, but they were all three uniform in color when the car went in and now there is a noticable difference in the two left guages.

So, I think there was a changeout IF there is a color difference in guage needles. Doesn't indicate the true mileage is wrong however, unless there is a huge chrono gap in service records.

Hey, call the guy up and go inspect it. The underside should look like new if the mielage is correct. Original mufflers, etc, etc, etc. Easy to check.

edit. Just blew up the pic of the interior and the emergency brake pedal has way too much wear, imo, for a 21,000 mile car. If the car had that little milelage, and was garaged most of it's life, why would the emergency brake pedal have so much wear?? Me? I rarely use the emergency/parking brake.

Mistress 07-29-2008 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 1921834)
That's the best color for the R107

White with blue is more better. I'm guessing 210,000 on the clock. Or 21,000 on a new engine.

mrdjsk 07-29-2008 03:50 PM

Let's face it. These kinds of claims are usually a lie, particularly when the price is low. The really low mileage cars are usually being sold by people who think they have a treasure.

Also, there's no offer to substantiate mileage. Just an assertion that it's genuine. Seems suspect.

With that said though, I would add that just looking at the seats doesn't say much. I've seen lots of old cars with dry, cracked leather seats caused by neglect and u/v damage.

450slcguy 07-29-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 1924174)
White with blue is more better.


Light Ivory with dark brown is way more better!:P

iwrock 07-29-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 450slcguy (Post 1924295)
Light Ivory with dark brown is way more better!:P

Black/Black....

jlomon 07-29-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123c (Post 1921851)
I saw a Ferrari with 16,000 miles at a used car lots that had torn up seats :eek:

People who own Ferraris get more sex in their cars than people who own R107s. That'll wear out the seat leather. ;)

450slcguy 08-02-2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 1928640)
Well the car was originally silver but had been re-painted red. The paint had some chips, but they had done a good job with the color change, it took me quite a while to notice it. It drove nicely and the AC was cold, but the seats and pedals had way to much ware for the claimed 21K. Digging around in the glove box I found some stamps in the maintenance book with 110,000 and 120,000 miles noted at the time of service. :rolleyes: The asking price of $4800 did not seem too out of line, but I think I will keep looking...

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/778430354.html


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