Surviving without Modern Medicine - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Trakehner · #1 07-30-2008, 10:02 PM

If modern medicine were to disappear tomorrow, how badly would you personally be affected? By modern medicine I mean antibiotics, stents, laser surgery, blood pressure meds, anti-depressants, synthetic insulin, etc, etc. Basically turning the clock back 100 years

Diesel4me · #2 07-30-2008, 10:07 PM

I'd be dead before the week was over.

Matt SD300 · #3 08-01-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by diesel4me

i'd be dead before the week was over.

Aids?

Trakehner · #4 08-01-2008, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt SD300

Aids?

How old are you?

dannym · #5 08-01-2008, 08:39 AM

There is definitely a place for moden medicine. It can help a lot of people live normal lives who normally could not.
The problem I think is twofold. First modern medicine treats the ailment, not the person. The second point is people just don't think or take control of their own health. They will do everything a doctor tells them no matter what.
The last time I went to a doctor I left with 5 prescriptions. As soon as I walked out the door 4 of them went in the garbage.

I also don't think actors posing as doctors should be able to go on TV and tell you you should be taking some kind of medicine. Especially with a whole list of side effects. Some of them really bad. Why would anyone wantto take something with a side effect of possible blindness. But I guess people do. Just goes to show how stupid people really are.

Danny

aklim · #6 08-01-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dannym

First modern medicine treats the ailment, not the person.

The second point is people just don't think or take control of their own health. They will do everything a doctor tells them no matter what.
The last time I went to a doctor I left with 5 prescriptions. As soon as I walked out the door 4 of them went in the garbage.

I also don't think actors posing as doctors should be able to go on TV and tell you you should be taking some kind of medicine. Especially with a whole list of side effects. Some of them really bad. Why would anyone wantto take something with a side effect of possible blindness. But I guess people do. Just goes to show how stupid people really are.

Danny

My wife is a NP who works for a company that sends her out to manage health of patients in nursing homes. In that case, it is easier for her to treat the person. Much harder to treat the person when you come in for 5 mins.

With what do you think people can make these leaps? I don't know the first thing about medicine so how would I go about determining by myself which drug I should take and which not and what to do?

They HAVE to list all the possible side effects. If you look at medicines you can see that they are pretty similar. The way to learn side effects is to memorize a general list of possible effects all the way from the highest hair in your body to the soles of your feet. Some have particular side effects so you remember them. IOW, most of them are boilerplate side effects.

450slcguy · #7 07-30-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trakehner

If modern medicine were to disappear tomorrow, how badly would you personally be affected? By modern medicine I mean antibiotics, stents, laser surgery, blood pressure meds, anti-depressants, synthetic insulin, etc, etc. Basically turning the clock back 100 years

The way things are, many people already are facing that reality. The drugs are there, they just can't afford them. Have you ever been laid off and lost your health insurance? Yes COBRA benefits are available, but how many people can afford many hundreds of dollars a month after losing their job?

Everyday many people have to make that decision. Pay their bills or buy their prescriptions.

Kuan · #8 07-30-2008, 11:12 PM

Back 100 years, meaning we could smoke weed in public?

Gurkha · #9 07-30-2008, 11:29 PM

I am........for the past 25 years, so is my entire family, we all depend on nature cure with Ayurveda and Homeopathy. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Mellitus at 30 and since then I have been on natural meds with no insulin. At 43 I still don't need any glasses and my kidneys test at 100%.

123c · #10 07-30-2008, 11:36 PM

I'd be just fine, about the only thing I take is Zyrtec, and Asprin. Just during allergy season I would feel horrible alot...

OMEGAMAN · #11 07-30-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gurkha

I am........for the past 25 years, so is my entire family, we all depend on nature cure with Ayurveda and Homeopathy. I was diagnosed with Diabetes Mellitus at 30 and since then I have been on natural meds with no insulin. At 43 I still don't need any glasses and my kidneys test at 100%.

You used modern medicine to test your Kidneys and thats against the rules!

Skippy · #12 07-30-2008, 11:33 PM

Considering the frequency with which I go to doctors, it would probably be a few years before I noticed.

Larry Delor · #13 07-30-2008, 11:51 PM

Other than the occasional analgesic, I don't take any meds, so I ought to be able to continue being a p i t a for a good while longer.

ramonajim · #14 07-31-2008, 12:31 AM

Depends on how you define 'survive.'

I've actually got my Enbrel syringe sitting on my keyboard, warming to room temp so that it doesn't hurt like a sum***** when I inject it. Getting that in tonight means tomorrow I take my methotrexate.

Just swallowed my twice-daily dose of loritadine.

This morning, I coated my face, neck, and arms with sunscreen.

If I had to give up my Enbrel and methotrexate, my mobility would be dramatically reduced. This I know, because any time I get an infection, I have to go off these drugs until the infection is cleared. If I'm off this cocktail for more than a couple weeks, I start reverting to painful existence I had for 20+ years before finding these drugs. In addition, off these drugs my iritis and macular edema are far more likely to flare up. Being blind sucks (went there once for a short while during a particularly bad bout of the macular edema), but being blind does not equal unable to survive.

Lose the loritadine, and I get miserable here in CT pretty much full time for ~ 4 months (severe grass allergies - pretty much anything people plant as lawn, I'm allergic to). In southern CA, this was a nuisance. Out here, it hits the point of 'Jim is useless' at times.

Sunscreen? Has become a necessity in my humble opinion. This opinion became pretty firmly planted after having 26 spots frozen off my face and shoulders. Oh - and one pre-cancerous lump removed from my nose.

So - losing my regimen of modern medicine won't cause me to drop dead tomorrow. Be miserable (fiery swords down the back of both legs with every step pretty much sucks), yeah. Drop dead sooner than I would have otherwise, most likely.

This from a guy who will never, ever forget that western doctors 'practice' medicine. Collectively, they've been at it for hundreds of years. Individually, they go to school forever, and yet they never get past the 'practicing' stage.

OMEGAMAN · #15 07-31-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ramonajim

Depends on how you define 'survive.'

I've actually got my Enbrel syringe sitting on my keyboard, warming to room temp so that it doesn't hurt like a sum***** when I inject it. Getting that in tonight means tomorrow I take my methotrexate.

Just swallowed my twice-daily dose of loritadine.

This morning, I coated my face, neck, and arms with sunscreen.

If I had to give up my Enbrel and methotrexate, my mobility would be dramatically reduced. This I know, because any time I get an infection, I have to go off these drugs until the infection is cleared. If I'm off this cocktail for more than a couple weeks, I start reverting to painful existence I had for 20+ years before finding these drugs. In addition, off these drugs my iritis and macular edema are far more likely to flare up. Being blind sucks (went there once for a short while during a particularly bad bout of the macular edema), but being blind does not equal unable to survive.

Lose the loritadine, and I get miserable here in CT pretty much full time for ~ 4 months (severe grass allergies - pretty much anything people plant as lawn, I'm allergic to). In southern CA, this was a nuisance. Out here, it hits the point of 'Jim is useless' at times.

Sunscreen? Has become a necessity in my humble opinion. This opinion became pretty firmly planted after having 26 spots frozen off my face and shoulders. Oh - and one pre-cancerous lump removed from my nose.

So - losing my regimen of modern medicine won't cause me to drop dead tomorrow. Be miserable (fiery swords down the back of both legs with every step pretty much sucks), yeah. Drop dead sooner than I would have otherwise, most likely.

This from a guy who will never, ever forget that western doctors 'practice' medicine. Collectively, they've been at it for hundreds of years. Individually, they go to school forever, and yet they never get past the 'practicing' stage.

Do you have Anklyosing Spondilytis? I take Humera for it