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tankdriver · #**106** 11-01-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

The whole thing is fraught with peril to be sure. There's no easy answer. But imagine we had no modern communication and some guy got up in the public square in your village and repeatedly maligned your name and your work with falsehoods and half truths. Imagine you went to the same square and said "now look here, that is not what happened, here's the way it went . . . " and were immediately told, "See here, you have no right to speak on this man's frequency. Go get your own town square," followed by being led away by constables for refusing to go quietly. It would be absurd of course.

But that's what we have now. Limbaugh and Hannity have gone rogue and no one can stand up to offer their defense. And don't tell me they debate with callers . . . please . . . . kill switch at the ready.

I had replied to this, but it was censored.

cmac2012 · #**107** 11-01-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Here's a list Hussein donors from the banking industry, I'll bet that now that he's been bought he stays bought.

John W. Roberts - (over $500,000) Ariel Capital Management
Richard Leweke – Vice Chairman of Washington Mutual Card Services
Seth Waugh – CEO of Deutsche Bank
Charles Lewis – Vice Chairman of Merrill Lynch
Michael Froman – Over $200,000 Managing Director of Citigroup
David Heller – Over $200,000 Managing Director of Goldman Sachs
Bruce Heyman - Over $200,000 - Managing Director Goldman Sachs
J. Michael Schell – Over $200,000 Managing Director at Citigroup
Jim Torrey – Over $500,000 Founder of the Torrey Funds – Hedge Funds
Todd Williams – Over $50,000 Managing Director Goldman Sachs & The Real Estate Council
Louis Susman - Over $200,000 Citi Investment Banking
John Rhea - (over $500,000) Co-Head of Lehman Bros. Global Investment Banking
Mark Gilbert - (over $500,000) Lehman Brothers Senior Executive
Christine Forester - (over $500,000) Lehman Brothers Senior Executive
Theodore Janulis – Bundler (over $100,000) & Lehman Brothers Head of Global Mortgages
Nadja Fidelia – Bundler (over $50,000) & Managing Director of Lehman Brothers

Can you find the list of what the same people gave McCain? Not uncommon.

Oh well, people go with the horse that looks like it'll be the winner.

So, you have no rebuttal for my rap in post #103?

cmac2012 · #**108** 11-01-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tankdriver

I had replied to this, but it was censored.

Wha???

Oh well, PM or e-mail your response if you want.

Oh wait, you were using a bit of metaphor, satire, etc.

Uno mass: nowhere have I advocated censorship. Half the fun would be sticking it to Limabaugh, Hannity etc. regarding their exact, uncensored remarks.

cmac2012 · #**109** 11-01-2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Here's a list Hussein donors from the banking industry, I'll bet that now that he's been bought he stays bought.

John McCain has received $3,830,175 from the banking industry since 1989, with more than $2.5 million coming in 2008 alone.

From:

http://www.campaignmoney.org/mccainmortgage

Your list totals just over $4 million, so it's not that far off -- sorta mirrors the liklihood of who will win.

tankdriver · #**110** 11-02-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Wha???

Oh well, PM or e-mail your response if you want.

Oh wait, you were using a bit of metaphor, satire, etc.

Uno mass: nowhere have I advocated censorship. Half the fun would be sticking it to Limabaugh, Hannity etc. regarding their exact, uncensored remarks.

It was lost in the crash earlier, I was joking.
Basically I said your analogy is flawed because I could find my own part of town to refute the guy and I could print pamphlets, etc. detailing how wrong he was. And I could sue him.

As for no one standing up to Limbaugh, you said many people, including the one you quoted, already did that.

Chris Bell · #**111** 11-02-2008, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012

The whole thing is fraught with peril to be sure. There's no easy answer. But imagine we had no modern communication and some guy got up in the public square in your village and repeatedly maligned your name and your work with falsehoods and half truths. Imagine you went to the same square and said "now look here, that is not what happened, here's the way it went . . . " and were immediately told, "See here, you have no right to speak on this man's frequency. Go get your own town square," followed by being led away by constables for refusing to go quietly. It would be absurd of course.

But that's what we have now. Limbaugh and Hannity have gone rogue and no one can stand up to offer their defense. And don't tell me they debate with callers . . . please . . . . kill switch at the ready.

Amazing how you single out Limbaugh and Hannity and not bother to mention Olberman, The female commentator on MSNBC whose name escapes me at the moment. For all intent and purposes there is no difference between any of them. The only real difference is you agree with Olberman and the woman. So who gets to decide who has to rebutted, you. How about when the political pendulum swings the other way, do want the next republican president deciding which shows get to be rebutted. How about pacifica radio do we get to rebut them, how all of NPR, how about The daily show does somebody get to rebut that? It's a dangerous slippery slope and I'd rather you just turn off the channel if you don't like someone as opposed to being some all knowing arbiter of truth.

MS Fowler · #**112** 11-02-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Amazing how you single out Limbaugh and Hannity and not bother to mention Olberman, The female commentator on MSNBC whose name escapes me at the moment. For all intent and purposes there is no difference between any of them. The only real difference is you agree with Olberman and the woman. So who gets to decide who has to rebutted, you. How about when the political pendulum swings the other way, do want the next republican president deciding which shows get to be rebutted. How about pacifica radio do we get to rebut them, how all of NPR, how about The daily show does somebody get to rebut that? It's a dangerous slippery slope and I'd rather you just turn off the channel if you don't like someone as opposed to being some all knowing arbiter of truth.

I agree. The Patriot act was instituted by GBW. Many repubs thought it was a good idea, but what happens when another party gets that power? The same with the "Fairness Doctrine". Right now libs want to silence the right on radio, and they might have the power. But what when the Right has that power to silence the Left? What then.

Who gets to decide who's speech is free and whose is is "impaired"?
Either all speech is free or none is. As I have said before, You must insure the freedom of speech that you hate, or there is no freedom of speech for anyone.