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Old 10-28-2008, 12:01 AM
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The Which Drudge Blare Project

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/the-which-drudge-blare-project-1.html

Three points:

1. No reporter should ever listen to anything Matt Drudge ever says again, period. He's done. Over. Toast. Proceed at your own risk.

2. The young woman who made up this story is deeply disturbed and needs help. She sought to inflame racial tensions at a point in our country's history when we could finally be overcoming some of them. That is a hideous sin, but rather than wanting to see her punished, I want to see her recover, because this is a cancer that we can no longer afford in our nation.

3. Conservative bloggers like Michelle Malkin who held their fire (edit: actually, expressed their skepticism) deserve credit for not trying to inflame the divisions in this country. I won't say this often, but thanks. My only hope is that they could be this honest more often.




This would just be a sad pathetic story of yet another immature white ascribing blame to 'some black guy' except that Drudge, McCain, and Palin bought into the story to some degree, even with the "B" etched backward into the girl's face.

McCain and Palin both called her to offer condolences and Drudge, of course, ran with the story in a big way. I don't blame McC/P. for this, but please, it had stink emanating from it at the git-go. Why so eager to jump on the band-wagon?

In addition, John Moody, exec VP at FOX News, had this to say at his blog:

If Ms. Todd’s allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama, not because they are racists (with due respect to Rep. John Murtha), but because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting.


http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/23/jmoody_1023/

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Hear! Hear! Hear!

Crystal Gail Mangum, Tawana Brawley, et al ....

"This would just be a sad pathetic story of yet another immature white ascribing blame to 'some black guy' except that Drudge, McCain, and Palin bought into the story to some degree, even with the "B" etched backward into the girl's face.

McCain and Palin both called her to offer condolences and Drudge, of course, ran with the story in a big way. I don't blame McC/P. for this, but please, it had stink emanating from it at the git-go. Why so eager to jump on the band-wagon?"


Righteous indignation duly noted!
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:38 AM
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http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/the-which-drudge-blare-project-1.html

Three points:

1. No reporter should ever listen to anything Matt Drudge ever says again, period. He's done. Over. Toast. Proceed at your own risk.


Dan Rather either. All the media jumps on crap they want to believe, it's just that normally those bonehead media groups are liberal-biased. In this case, it's the right-sided media.

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2. The young woman who made up this story is deeply disturbed and needs help. She sought to inflame racial tensions at a point in our country's history when we could finally be overcoming some of them. That is a hideous sin, but rather than wanting to see her punished, I want to see her recover, because this is a cancer that we can no longer afford in our nation.


Not the first time - remember that chick who drowned her kids in the car and pulled the same "black guy" story?

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3. Conservative bloggers like Michelle Malkin who held their fire (edit: actually, expressed their skepticism) deserve credit for not trying to inflame the divisions in this country. I won't say this often, but thanks. My only hope is that they could be this honest more often.
Honesty at it's finest. Anyone with half a brain should have read that story with a grain of salt, but it's an election year and no logic applies.
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So you're saying she was a plant by some Obama supporters?
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So you're saying she was a plant by some Obama supporters?
I don't think that she's anyone's plant. Just a deeply-disturbed person who lacks critical thinking skills.
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I think her basic thinking skills might be suspect as well.
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Yet another case of Ron Paul supporters saying, 'told ya so'. She was kicked out of a Ron Paul group a while back.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:26 PM
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Dan Rather either. All the media jumps on crap they want to believe, it's just that normally those bonehead media groups are liberal-biased. In this case, it's the right-sided media.
Rather's folly wasn't in the same class as this. Plenty of evidence to indicate that Bush got special treatment in the guard. The Bush-o-mon himself even said that he "worked it out with the Guard" to leave early to attend Harvard. Well, plenty of Guardsmen in Iraq have done the same thing, haven't they?

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Not the first time - remember that chick who drowned her kids in the car and pulled the same "black guy" story?
All the more reason to wait until the story was investigated before running with it.

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Honesty at it's finest. Anyone with half a brain should have read that story with a grain of salt, but it's an election year and no logic applies.
Plenty of conservatives are not dummies, I'm happy to confirm (I'm so generous). Drudge, McCain, and Palin are not among this group. Ditto for the campaign staffers that didn't stop M and P from stepping in this obviously contrived bit of slime.
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Crystal Gail Mangum, Tawana Brawley, et al ....

"This would just be a sad pathetic story of yet another immature white ascribing blame to 'some black guy' except that Drudge, McCain, and Palin bought into the story to some degree, even with the "B" etched backward into the girl's face.

McCain and Palin both called her to offer condolences and Drudge, of course, ran with the story in a big way. I don't blame McC/P. for this, but please, it had stink emanating from it at the git-go. Why so eager to jump on the band-wagon?"

Righteous indignation duly noted!
You are surprised that both blacks and whites would pull this kind of crap? I'm not. Mediocrity is widespread and knows no color lines. Did the Demo pres. or pres. candidate call Brawley to offer condolences? No, it was Al, ambulance chasing, Sharpton, who will forever more be relegated to the lightweight class for his credulity. As should Drudge, McCain, and Palin.
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Rather's folly wasn't in the same class as this. Plenty of evidence to indicate that Bush got special treatment in the guard..........
Only from the same sources that have been proven to be contrafactual.

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So you're saying she was a plant by some Obama supporters?
Careful man, you'll pull some muscles with those kinds of gyrations.

Let us assume she was (one in one million chance). Does this let Drudge, McCain, and Palin off the hook for buying into this obviously sad and contrived story?

Or how about the FOX guy I quoted above.

If Ms. Todd’s allegations are proven accurate, some voters may revisit their support for Senator Obama, not because they are racists (with due respect to Rep. John Murtha), but because they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Democratic nominee.

If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain’s quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting.


The first sentence is truly remarkable. If this story was true, voters are correct in assuming that this tells them something about Obama?!? This would be like claiming that the pea-brained skin-head plot to steal guns from gun shops and shoot up black schools and then Obama himself may give voters pause to wonder if they suddenly feel they do not know enough about the Republican nominee.

And oddly, I've heard nothing more about the second sentence.
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Only from the same sources that have been proven to be contrafactual.
Please, please, and please. Bush admitted the Guard let him leave early to attend Harvard. I saw him on TV say it with his own lips. The whole thing stinks. I've heard interviews with pilots who say it's almost unheard of for a pilot to be trained to fly a jet in the guard. The normal way is to learn in the AF or Navy, and then semi-retire to the guard. Makes ample sense as it costs about $1 million to train a jet pilot. Our country paid for Bush's training so he could have a nice photo op, as it turns out.

The deceased colonel's secretary said the letter was a forgery but the information was correct. Oh wait, I forget, she's a democrat so she is invalidated as a witness.

Bush is a lightweight in all directions at once.
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Please, please, and please. Bush admitted the Guard let him leave early to attend Harvard. I saw him on TV say it with his own lips. The whole thing stinks. I've heard interviews with pilots who say it's almost unheard of for a pilot to be trained to fly a jet in the guard. The noraml way is to learn in the AF or Navy, and then semi-retire to the guard. Makes ample sense as it costs about $1 million to train a jet pilot. Our country paid for Bush's training so he could have a nice photo op, as it turns out.

The deceased colonel's secretary said the letter was a forgery but the information was correct. Oh wait, I forget, she's a democrat so she is invalidated as a witness.

Bush is a lightweight in all directions at once.
I got out of the navy a couple of months early.

How do you think I got out early? I worked a deal.

Early-outs are at the discretion and dependent upon the needs of the service. I lucked out. because I wanted to start the summer semester of college and my date of separation was July 13th. I filled-out a request, showed them the acceptance letter and my CLEP scores. They made a decision to let me out.

That is NO DIFFERENT from Dubyuh. I ain't nobody special. During that time lots of people were getting early outs. Especially if they were trained for equipment & systems that were being phased-out. Or like me, my ship was going to the Med for 6 months and it saved the Navy money not to have to fly me home.

Now that you know the system and how it works, you might cut the guys some slack.

Probably not.

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Old 10-28-2008, 11:56 PM
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I stand corrected. However, I maintain that it was well known at the time that service in the guard was an easy way to avoid duty in Nam . . . . if you could get into the guard. And Bush was a major hawk on Nam.

My other point about his learning how to fly a jet in the guard is not affected by this news.

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