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Old 12-04-2008, 07:29 AM
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School cancels Christmas nativity in favour of Muslim Eid celebrations
A primary school has cancelled its Christmas nativity in favour of Muslim festival of Eid celebrations because it would be too much for the children to do both.

By Nick Britten
Last Updated: 2:30PM GMT 03 Dec 2008
Greenwood Junior School sent out a letter to parents saying the three-day festival of Eid al-Adha, which takes place between December 8 and 11, meant that Muslim children would be off school.
That meant planning for the traditional nativity play were shelved because the school felt it would be too difficult to run both celebrations side by side.
The move has left parents furious.
Janette Lynch, whose seven-year-old son Keanu attends the school, in Sneinton, Nottingham, said: "The head has a whole year to plan for Eid and so she should be able to plan for both religious festivals.
"I have never heard of this at a school. It is the first year my son has been there and a lot of the mums like me were really looking forward to seeing the children in the nativity."
She said a letter, sent from "The staff at Greenwood Junior School', said: "It is with much regret that we have had to cancel this year's Christmas performances. This is due to the Eid celebrations that take place next week and its effect on our performers."
The school is to hold a number of children's Eid activities for those pupils who do not take two days off to celebrate with their families.
Following outrage from parents, the school was forced to send out a second letter saying that the Christmas play would be done in January.
Sent by the head teacher, Amber Latif, and Yvonne Wright, chair of governors, it apologised for "any misunderstanding" but said it had to respect "the cultures and religions of all the children".
It added: "The Christmas performance has not been cancelled outright but has been postponed until the New Year."
Parents said they were originally told the performance was cancelled because children wanted to celebrate Eid with their families at home, and planning of the school year made it difficult to move performance dates to another week.
Sajad Hussain, 35, of who has two children at Greenwood Junior, said: "My children will be off for the two days next week to see their family.
"It's not that complicated; they could have one event on one day and another on another day, they should have both celebrations at the school.
"If you do not have both it becomes a racist thing and that's why you have to be careful If an issue is made out of it, it could become nasty."
Yesterday, a statement issued by Greenwood Junior, said: "We would like to apologise for any confusion caused as a result of [the original] letter we sent out and would like to reassure parents and the community that Christmas has not been cancelled at Greenwood Junior School.
"For very practical reasons we have taken the difficult decision to re-arrange some significant events on the school calendar to ensure maximum pupil and staff attendance."

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And common good to all, made one of them.
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Which society? The article was from britain I believe where that kind of bs has been happening for some time. But then britian, and Europe in general in my opinion have been scoieties in decline sice 1945.

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Ridiculous, India has 20% or more Muslims and even there, no one gets three days off.This is the height of it. Also no one religion is given precedence over other. This sets a very wrong tone for things to come. Christians have the right to be outraged. Best to keep all religious activities out of school no matter what.
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I agree that keeping religion out of schools is a good idea. It doesn't look as though fundamentalist religion can be eradicated from the human mind so it's better to keep it confined to private life as much as possible.
That being said, I don't think the situation in England is directly comparable to the USA. There are parts of northern England (and sections of London) where the population is predominantly Muslim so if a school is going to have some days off for a religious holiday, it might as well be Eid as Xmas. The only problem is that while the Father Son and Holy Ghost died in the 19th century, Allah has yet to have a funeral.
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Ridiculous, India has 20% or more Muslims and even there, no one gets three days off.This is the height of it. Also no one religion is given precedence over other. This sets a very wrong tone for things to come. Christians have the right to be outraged.

Best to keep all religious activities out of school no matter what.
I don't think it is fair to compare us with India. Has India been a wealthy country for long? I don't believe so. Well, when you are hungry, do you care what food you eat? IOW, are you going to be picky and say "I won't eat (insert ethnic group) food? Probably not. As long as it feeds you, you eat it. When you are wealthy, you are more picky because you can. What has this to do with anything? Give India 50 years more of prosperity and watch what happens. They will get more and more PC and try avoiding stepping on other's toes. You are familiar with the story of the old man, the boy and the donkey, right?

Or any public institution, period. No ands, buts or ifs. Religion belongs in the home or the private sector not in public where it is sponsored by govt.
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Comments: Greenwood Junior School, (Local education authority: City of Nottingham) is a Primary School in , Nottingham. It is a Mixed school of Non Denominational religion

Since it is a city run school, I agree that religion should be kept out of it.
However, since the school kow-towed to the Muslims, they should also have the Nativity and do it before Christmas or it has no meaning.
Best thing would be what they do around here which is a 'Season's Greetings' kind of pagent with non-religious songs like "Sleigh ride" and "Jingle Bells"
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I agree that keeping religion out of schools is a good idea.

It doesn't look as though fundamentalist religion can be eradicated from the human mind so it's better to keep it confined to private life as much as possible.
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Religion seems to be one of those things that we are not matured enough to get out of. It has been going on for who knows long long so I am not hopeful.
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However, since the school kow-towed to the Muslims, they should also have the Nativity and do it before Christmas or it has no meaning.
Since when does it have to have a meaning? What is next? If I were there, I'd have my kid say he wants a devil worship ceremony.
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Greenwood Junior School, Nottingham

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Comments: Greenwood Junior School, (Local education authority: City of Nottingham) is a Primary School in , Nottingham. It is a Mixed school of Non Denominational religion

Since it is a city run school, I agree that religion should be kept out of it.
However, since the school kow-towed to the Muslims, they should also have the Nativity and do it before Christmas or it has no meaning.
Best thing would be what they do around here which is a 'Season's Greetings' kind of pagent with non-religious songs like "Sleigh ride" and "Jingle Bells"
Advent precedes Christmas. All you people getting trees and trimming them now, have it ALL WRONG!

The nativity scene goes up Christmas Eve and for 12 nights thereafter.

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