Hear me out: things happen that are beyond our control, and I believe we have a duty to help out our fellow Citizen. However, why would you let someone who you are supporting to your detriment, control the level of support through voting? Where would the incentive be, if the donee could vote himself into more of your tax money?

I say we receive forfeit of the voting privileges of welfare recipients upon approval for the benefit (sort of like implied consent with a DL). Then restore the privilege when the person goes off the dole, as an incentive to rejoin the workforce. For those who have legitimate issues preventing them from working, they won't be voting anyway or are otherwise unqualified, so no loss there.

I'd be less inclined to ***** about the proportional amount of my taxes that go to welfare if I had more control over how it was spent through a stronger vote.

If the welfare recipient is a legal US citizen he/she/it should be allowed to vote , period.

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That sounds good to me. If you're on the dole, ya can't go to the polls.

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What is the logical relationship between public assistance and the participation in a fundamental element in representative democracy?

Well then should felons who are citizens be allowed to vote?

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I don't see how voting comes in to play. It does seem appropriate that if the State is supporting them that they in turn should be required to do some public service work for their "wage".

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Good idea. Unfortunately the constitution might stand in the way of that one. I'm less inclined to resort to scrwing around with the constitution, even if it were to deny welfare bums the vote. And I agree that felons should be denied it too.

I think it would be better to reduce welfare itself rather than monkey around with the constitution.

- Peter.

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I'm almost completely with you. I' prefer that felons not vote and that non-landowners not vote on taxes that affect only landowners. Not restricting the non-vote to welfare recipients so maybe I agree with you completely. Guess it depends on how you parse it.

If the glove don't fit .........

In fact, let's just throw the whole Constitution in the trash!

Aw Kirk, you big silly!

I would rather see that voting be tied to paying taxes. If you do not pay your income tax you don't vote.

I would also like to see welfare turned into workfare for able bodied people. we all have to go to work everyday, why should somebody who has no excuse sit home and get a check? If you are disabled and cannot work, that is a different story. Of course there are people with jobs who are blind, deaf, in wheelchairs, etc. so the standards of able bodied will be pretty broad.

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The whole "welfare reciepients sit home and do nothing" is kind of an urban legend. The Welfare Reform Act pretty much ended that, as much as you wish to end the whole "all men are created equal" thing. It's so embarassing to have to be equal to someone who is poor, isn't it?

Can one assume in regard to your original question that within the term "welfare recipient" you include the greatest number by far of such parasites- politicians and government employees'?

The essential question is can any host survive if its' tapeworm, regardless of how familiar or friendly be allowed to dictate the menu?

I was just having this discussion with my wife the other night. I would rather voting rights be tied into proving a basic understanding of how the political system works. If you can pass some sort of "civics 101" test then you get to vote. Someone who would take the time to pass a test to earn the right to vote will probably be more inclined to learn about issues before they vote on them. They are probably more likely to have a sense of civic responsibility that would motivate them to seek gainful employment if they are able to, as well.

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