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Botnst · #1 03-16-2009, 08:33 AM

HIGH SCHOOL --
1957 vs. 2008

Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2008 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2008 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged them with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again..
2008 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra mon ey from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
=0 A
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.

Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.
2008 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:
Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2008 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2008 - ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again .

Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2008 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

jplinville · #2 03-16-2009, 10:56 AM

Proof that we are raising a generation of wimps

#3 03-16-2009, 11:07 AM

Scenario 9:
1957: Susie (Johnnys mother) is getting beaten every night and verbally abused. Susie's preist said its her fault and to read her bible. Susie's mother said to just stick it out.
2008: Susie calls the cops and Mary's abusive husband is put behind bars where he meets Fred (Jacks uncle). Fred and Susie's husband become "very close"

Just saying not all change is bad.

LUVMBDiesels · #4 03-16-2009, 11:13 AM

We are not raising a generation of wimps. The ACLU, Trial Lawyers, Teacher's Union, mass media, and state and Federal Bureaucracies are raising a generation of politically correct "right thinking" well adjusted, self actualized navel gazing, can't do anything for themselves, need instant gratification, morally bankrupt, knowledge hating, superstitious, hyper-sexualized wimps.

#5 03-16-2009, 11:16 AM

But LUVMBDIESELS what do you really think the problem is....now, now don't hold back

John Doe · #6 03-16-2009, 11:27 AM

Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels

We are not raising a generation of wimps. The ACLU, Trial Lawyers,

Previously by LuvMBDiesels:
If the Governor and the University wanted him gone strictly for political reasons Chuchill should win his suit. As much as I cannot stand his political views, he has a right to them. If his viewpoint is not what the students or the University want espoused, his classes could end up with no students as was said in a previous post. He should be fired for his numerous plagiarisms.

It is funny, this whole thing reminds me of the thread I started about academic freedom where I called a NAZI, STUPID, and POOR for going to a state college and fighting with a professor who was an avowed Communist.
The same people who blasted me for espousing MY academic freedom of speech are defending Churchill. As far as I am concerned the 1st Amendment applies to everybody!

Dee8go · #7 03-16-2009, 11:55 AM

I was laughing so hard I have tears running down my face. It is somewhat true, though. We seem to have taken a turn for the worse in many respects. This reminds me of the movie I watched yesterday, Mr Woodcock. Anybody else seen that?

SirNik84 · #8 03-16-2009, 12:33 PM

I grew up in small rural town. in the summer when I was 10 I would get up in the morning leave the house on my bike meet up with my friends and go exploring. one of our moms would have given us a few hot dogs and we wouldn't come home until someone came and got us or it was getting dark. all of this growing up in the early 90s.

Now i live in a city, and my co-workers have kids who are 10 and they are in day care, or have a nanny, they are watched all day, they are not allowed to go outside for fear of getting kidnapped or something. I find this kinda shocking thinking how much freedom I had at 10.

My coworkers, who are from the city are shocked at my freedom also because not even they had that much freedom, growing up in the early 70s.

Kids today are looking for adventure, and when they are locked up in the house all day the find it in video games. instead of having a few hot dogs to split between friends they have access to the kitchen, and eat all day. combine that with the "structured" lives kids live today, they never have a chance to make any of their choices, and are never forced to deal with the consequences.

Botnst · #9 03-16-2009, 12:48 PM

That first one rang true for me: taking guns to school. The rule was it had to be unloaded in the trunk. I'll bet a third of the kids brought guns to school during the fall.

LUVMBDiesels · #10 03-16-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Doe

Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?

Previously by LuvMBDiesels:
If the Governor and the University wanted him gone strictly for political reasons Chuchill should win his suit. As much as I cannot stand his political views, he has a right to them. If his viewpoint is not what the students or the University want espoused, his classes could end up with no students as was said in a previous post. He should be fired for his numerous plagiarisms.

It is funny, this whole thing reminds me of the thread I started about academic freedom where I called a NAZI, STUPID, and POOR for going to a state college and fighting with a professor who was an avowed Communist.
The same people who blasted me for espousing MY academic freedom of speech are defending Churchill. As far as I am concerned the 1st Amendment applies to everybody!

The first amendment has nothing to do with the idea of being 'self actualized" and learning "Inventive Spelling" - like they foisted on my son, or the idea that being "well adjusted" means that you can not be told any criticism...
This nation has stopped being about self determination and honest work. It has become all about "MY FEELINGS HAVE BEEN HURT"

While somebody like Churchill should not be taken seriously, he should still be able to speak. I think that instead of talking out of both sides of my mouth, I am being consistent! In my own academic freedom thread, I told of how I was unfairly singled out due to my not being left wing. My feelings were not hurt as I can take it, but my grade was impacted by my beliefs, which it should not have been.

Of course until the "Fairness Doctrine" is made law, we are ALL entitled to our opinions

John Doe · #11 03-16-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels

The first amendment has nothing to do with the idea of being 'self actualized" and learning "Inventive Spelling - like they foisted on my son, or the idea that being "well adjusted" means that you can not be told any criticism...
This nation has stopped being about self determination and honest work. It has become all about "MY FEELINGS HAVE BEEN HURT"

While somebody like Churchill should not be taken seriously, he should still be able to speak. I think that instead of talking out of both sides of my mouth, I am being consistent! In my own academic freedom thread, I told of how I was unfairly singled out due to my not being left wing. My feelings were not hurt as I can take it, but my grade was impacted by my beliefs, which it should not have been.

Of course until the "Fairness Doctrine" is made law, we are ALL entitled to our opinions

If your 1st Am rights were abrogated, would you know how to address that violation in Federal Court? Or would you have to have a trial lawyer, and/ or the ACLU help?

LUVMBDiesels · #12 03-16-2009, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Doe

If your 1st Am rights were abrogated, would you know how to address that violation in Federal Court? Or would you have to have a trial lawyer, and/ or the ACLU help?

OK, well let me amend my rant to "MOST of the rapacious ambulance chasing, frivolous lawsuit on contingency basis legal eagles -- not ALL lawyers"

My stand on the ACLU still stands