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Old 04-07-2009, 10:56 AM
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The ironic thing about your use of that worn out line is that, if there is any fault, this is a case where it really is Bush's fault, or at least the Bush administration's fault. Their actions have placed at risk the confidentiality of classified sources and methods.
What's not ironic is your stale attempts to defend Obama solely because its Obama, if this were the Bush administration you would be singing a completely different tune.

And since when did you care about confidentiality and classified sources? Why can Obama have secrecy while Bush cannot?
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:17 AM
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What's not ironic is your stale attempts to defend Obama solely because its Obama, if this were the Bush administration you would be singing a completely different tune.
What a load of crap. If you read the article and my comments you will see that your slur doesn't even make sense.
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And since when did you care about confidentiality and classified sources?
Since I first learned what they were. I don't recall how old I was - six, maybe seven years old. How long has it been for you?
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Why can Obama have secrecy while Bush cannot?
What are you talking about? Can you cite a single thing I've said that even remotely relates to your insulting comments?
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:32 AM
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What a load of crap. If you read the article and my comments you will see that your slur doesn't even make sense.Since I first learned what they were. I don't recall how old I was - six, maybe seven years old. How long has it been for you?What are you talking about? Can you cite a single thing I've said that even remotely relates to your insulting comments?
You're easily insulted I don't know if its insecurity or what but you sure as hell don't like criticism and it appears that I struck the right chord.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:44 AM
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You're easily insulted I don't know if its insecurity or what but you sure as hell don't like criticism
You are mistaken. I have no problem with criticism. What I don't like is someone attacking my integrity. I don't consider your comment to be "criticism" because it has neither facts nor logic behind it. It was really just an insult.
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and it appears that I struck the right chord.
Really? That's the way it seems to you? You make an unfounded and illogical personal attack, for which I really have no defense. You have no facts to back up your insults. And you conclude that you "struck the right cord." Ridiculous.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:19 AM
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What's not ironic is your stale attempts to defend Obama solely because its Obama...
By the way, do you oppose the Obama administration's efforts to protect what they claim are classified sources and methods?
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:29 AM
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By the way, do you oppose the Obama administration's efforts to protect what they claim are classified sources and methods?
Nope.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:45 AM
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Nope.
And yet my defense of Obama is a "stale attempt"? That makes sense to you?
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Old 04-07-2009, 12:11 PM
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:40 PM
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Why the rudeness?
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What's not ironic is your stale attempts to defend Obama solely because its Obama, if this were the Bush administration you would be singing a completely different tune.

And since when did you care about confidentiality and classified sources? Why can Obama have secrecy while Bush cannot?

Maybe I missed something, where were these "stale attempts" to defend Obama? Dculkin's point, if you had been paying attention, was that the intel has already been gathered, and it would be detrimental to divulge it. The methods that were used are still employed today, just that now they have judicial oversight, as they should have from their inception. If the current administration turned over that intel, they feel it would highlight the methods used to collect it, and jeopardize the ability to continue using it.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:17 PM
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Maybe I missed something, where were these "stale attempts" to defend Obama? Dculkin's point, if you had been paying attention, was that the intel has already been gathered, and it would be detrimental to divulge it. The methods that were used are still employed today, just that now they have judicial oversight, as they should have from their inception. If the current administration turned over that intel, they feel it would highlight the methods used to collect it, and jeopardize the ability to continue using it.

Stale meaning stale, old he changes his argument to fulfill his partisanship while believing that he is non-partisan. I'll be honest and admit I don't read 95% of what he says sometimes it upsets my tummy.
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Old 04-07-2009, 01:46 PM
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Stale meaning stale, old he changes his argument to fulfill his partisanship while believing that he is non-partisan.
That's false. You proved that it is false by linking to that other thread in which every statement I made is consistent with what I've said here.
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I'll be honest and admit I don't read 95% of what he says sometimes it upsets my tummy.
And you say I'm overly sensitive.
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